ok, we've had an url for a map, so time for some directions go to london bridge station come out the main entrance cross over the road, do you see the banker and barrowboy (or some such - its the one my half brother craig went to the meeting in last week) ok, find a little walk way near it that goes down a slight slope (the chapel steps may be closed) walk around the side of the chapel turn right walk along past fish until you see a ship by a pub turn left walk along clink street - here you will find many trendy nu medja types , (you can tell the difference between them and beggars, as the beggars will ask for cash for a can of tennants super the beggars will ask for 10 million VC funds to start their latest idea - that is bound to work this time ;-) ) ok carry on and youll see a crap wine ``theme park''/tour place - dont go there its crap you should now see a big pub with lots of seats outside along the side of the thames go in and ask for the mccarroll party remember do not drinks lots and shout about heretics until we at least get served i'll be there early - drinking -- Greg McCarroll http://www.mccarroll.uklinux.net