i just had a trial run with Dave H, of xfrisk (i'm sure it used to just be called xrisk years ago) and it isn't half bad
so if anyone fancies a game at around say 7.30pm (GMT), why not download/compile the program, its at http://morphy.iki.fi/xfrisk/ and pop on irc.rhizomatic.net, #london.pm around then and we can enjoy world domination greg -- Greg McCarroll http://217.34.97.146/~gem/