Jacqui wrote:
> James Laver wrote:
> > On 21 Oct 2009, at 01:24, Paul Makepeace wrote:
> >> PS for the real layout nerds, http://colemak.com/ is a better choice
> >> than Dvorak if you're going to start from scratch
> > http://www.kaufmann.no/roland/dvorak/ is worth a mention too. I got 
> > myself up to about one-quarter-speed on that last time I tried.
> 
> OK I'll bite which is best for perl? :-)
> 
> Or perhaps what would be the ideal tag layout for perl on a standard UK/US
> keyboard layout?


Before you switch keyboards, I think there is an important question about how 
often you are obliged to use a standard qwerty keyboard. I worked all over 
Europe for a bit using a large number of the European variations on qwerty (y 
and z switched for instance and punctuation in unusual places). I found the 
constant switching meant I was slower on all keyboards - but maybe it was worse 
because the keyboards were kind of the same. Maybe it's not such a problem if 
you switch between, say, qwerty and colemak.

 

However... My understanding is that, despite a lot of the top results on google 
for comparisons between dvorak and qwerty significantly favouring the latter, 
there is actually very little to choose between the two of them in terms of 
speed. This is a quote from http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?DvorakKeyboard

 

Liebowitz and Margolis have expanded their earlier discussion on the supposed 
'network effect' of the two types of keyboard in their 1999 book, Winners, 
Losers & Microsoft (ISBN 0-945-99980-1 ). Chapter 2 is titled "The Fable of the 
Keys". In it, they refer to some ergonomic studies (pages 31 to 33) in which 
the theoretical performance benefit of Dvorak over QWERTY has been calculated. 
A study by A. Miller and J. C. Thomas concludes that "no alternative has shown 
a realistically significant advantage over the QWERTY for general purpose 
typing." R.F. Nickells, Jr, found that Dvorak was possibly 6.2 percent faster 
than QWERTY, while R. Kinkhead found a 2.3% advantage in favour of Dvorak. 

 

Ok - even taking the top number without question: 6.2% is obviously better, 
but, for me, it's not enough to overcome the switching/convenience problem - 
and also the problem of being able to find a top quality ergonomic keyboard. 
Can anyone point me towards a Goldtouch style keyboard for dvorak or colemak? 
It's basically got a ball and socket joint joining two halves of a split 
keyboard allowing you to control both yaw and roll. It also has the advantage 
of no numeric keypad - so there's significantly less travel between keyboard 
and mouse. I haven't had significant RSI since I started using it, and I was in 
significant pain pre-adoption.

 

I had been seeing an osteopath who pointed out that the natural position for 
the hand is in "shaking hands" position - so constantly rotating it flat (as 
for "normal" cheap flat keyboards) - and worse, then yawing it to point 
forward, places a lot of strain on your hands. He also got me to use a "shaking 
hands" position mouse. We're kind of switching into public service/health 
announcement territory here: but if anyone is interested, a good link to buy 
this sort of stuff is www.ergonomics.co.uk under Products->Accessories. I also 
use a specialist mouse wrist rest from Fellowes that moves with my wrist.

 

I would be very interested to know if there are any truly independent studies 
on colemak versus qwerty keyboards - but I would be surprised if the difference 
came out at more than 10%.

 

Chris
                                          
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