Again the infrastructure , the control and security of where that testing takes place, and other things linking back to another location where they can be multiple exams going on per individual Proctor , still has a cost to it.
The alternative is to use an honor System where the remote testing wouldn't be in a secured location oh, and that would bring costs way down. Unfortunately some may question the integrity of the exam and certain areas at that point. Again, if you have a detailed plan I would love to see it. Just understand red hat and Cisco had the two most expensive testing capabilities and both are multi-billion-dollar companies. I would love to get access to Red Hats kiosk system, and even then that will take redhat subsidizing another entity like LPI. -- Sent from my Essential PH-1, please excuse any typos Bryan J Smith - http://linkedin.com/in/bjsmith On Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 10:31 BHL <[email protected]> wrote: > I'm thinking that one should just using a remote management and link to > the proctor's computer (in the examination site). > > Sorry I forgot to use Reply all > > > Sent with ProtonMail <https://protonmail.com> Secure Email. > > ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ > On Sunday, April 14, 2019 8:18 AM, Bryan Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > > Got to be far more in-depth than that. > > First off, you're going to need a testing location. One of the major > complaints about red hat is it's very difficult to find a testing center > especially outside of the US and Europe. > > Secondly, the time it takes to develop a Hands-On lab exam, is very very > extensive and expensive. It's where Red Hat actually spends most of its > money. I've seen it internally. There's a reason why their partner > enablement went a different route. Then there's the automatic grading oh, > just a cut down on the manual grading effort. > > 3rd oh, no way would any Enterprise use virtualbox. One would use the > built-in KVM facilities, if not Ovirt for centralized control away from the > student, and remote proctoring even. That's probably the easy part, but the > testing center usually doesn't have computers capable of running things > like that, so LP I would have to invest in computers in addition to leasing > testing centers. > > So, this is a very difficult discussion that requires a lot in a lot of > depth. I don't want inhibit anybody from having the ideas, I would just > like to see greater and deeper discussion and depth. > > In fact, redhat maintains its infrastructure and kiosks and testing > centers and has a scheduler online for signing up. I'm sure they would like > to keep those kiosks better utilized oh, and that is an option. But the > cost of those things are not cheap they're far far more expensive and that > would either require LPI to make that investment or ask redhat to subsidize > LPI. > > Was probably more likely is a remote testing capability on a cloud and an > honor System or possibly select simulations but even those take a while and > a lot of cost to develop. > > In the end Red Hat exist for a reason and it's able to do testing on par > with the Cisco ccie at a great amount of cost that most candidates will be > unwilling to pay. The idea has Merit but it's probably only going to be LPI > level three. > > > -- > Sent from my Essential PH-1, please excuse any typos > Bryan J Smith - http://linkedin.com/in/bjsmith > > > > On Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 09:55 BHL <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Not much of a idea, but: >> 1 Virtualbox >> 1 Ubuntu/Red Hat VM >> a proctor who knows the objectives >> >> >> Sent with ProtonMail <https://protonmail.com> Secure Email. >> >> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ >> On Saturday, April 13, 2019 10:18 PM, Bryan Smith <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> It costs Red Hat over $1K/day to provide such testing. Yes, they do it at >> a loss, and subsidize it with for-profit training, let alone software. LPI >> is a non-profit with 3 orders magnitude less revenue. >> >> Red Hat candidates pay $400 per 2-3 hour exam, $800 per 4-6 hour per >> exam. And Red Hat options are not available in remotely as many countries >> as LPI. >> >> So... how should LPI proceed? >> >> - bjs >> >> >> >> -- >> Sent from my Essential PH-1, please excuse any typos >> Bryan J Smith - http://linkedin.com/in/bjsmith >> >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 14, 2019, 00:03 BHL <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Thinking that LPIC-2 and up should have a hands on portion (like Red Hat) >>> >>> >>> Sent with ProtonMail <https://protonmail.com> Secure Email. >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> lpi-examdev mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://list.lpi.org/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev >>> >> >> >
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