On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 10:10 AM, Alessandro Selli <
[email protected]> wrote:

>  Martin Møller Skarbiniks Pedersen wrote:
>
>  202.4 systemd
>   Because systemd is the future and it is already default for many
> professionel distros eg.
>   CentOS.
>
>   This too I remember was discussed, and the outcome was that is is going
> to be introduced next exam revision IIRC.
>

​I had argued in prior years that "event" type concepts should be
​introduced for Upstart and dystemd, just so sysadmins would know where to
look for the init and related paths.  But now with the major Debian users
pushing their steering to adopt systemd back in January 2014, and Canonical
agreeing to respect that vote and looking to integrate it in LTS circa
2016.4, I think it's safe to say the focus should be to add systemd by 2016.

The major issue with systemd, and the related and often support *d
services, is that it adds far more.  systemd itself is not just a
monitoring and respawning init replacement like monit or other options, but
a dynamic, D-Bus connected, socket, resource and other monitoring (for
service, resource and other dependencies) management solution for far more
than just services.  So one will have to look at it's considerations beyond
just this section as well.

E.g., ​I don't think people realize that system monitoring will shortly be
systemd integrated, and heavily so.  That's because systemd merely, and
finally, concentrated a lot of separate, but pre-existing subsystems that
have exited in in any Linux distro for years.  Subsystems which were
ignored by not only other init options, but by various, different
monitoring and other support solutions which handled some of them in
various, non-standard ways prior.​  systemd just finally offers a standard
way to them all now.

​-- bjs

P.S.  Martin, when I try to be general, try to use "Enterprise Linux" or
"EL" for short, instead of brand names like "CentOS" or "SL" (Scien​tific
Linux) or "RHEL" for that matter.  Ironically I had this discussion with
one of the co-maintainers of SL, along with Red Hat associates, at Red Hat
Summit last year, with everyone defaulting to "CentOS", even on some
project sites that are wholly maintained by Red Hat.

​And yes, I know, there will be no full SL 7 release, as they are moving to
just adopt CentOS 7​, with their added SL 7 repositories, given Red Hat
employs several core CentOS maintainers and has helped streamline some of
their organizational needs, including the release and configuration
management of source packages.  Still, I prefer to use "EL" generically,
since no one else does (e.g., SLED/SLES doesn't).
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