I am sorry for creating this confusion. My comments were in response to a comment concerning additional SQL objectives and system reporting.
I believe expanding awk objectives would provide a better skillset for this reporting tool. I believe moving fundamental shell scripting to 101 allows the student to be able to look at and understand the construct of scripts, and configuration files, and is an invaluable tool when studying the OS. I offered fundamental Perl scripting as an additional point of study as it can be used for administration and reporting as well. I suggested it as an answer to other comments on the list. In terms of scripting I think a better approach would be to offer fundamental bash objectives in 101 and more advance bash scripting objectives in another part of the program. Sandor -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 5:37 AM To: [email protected] Subject: lpi-examdev Digest, Vol 85, Issue 14 Send lpi-examdev mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [email protected] You can reach the person managing the list at [email protected] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of lpi-examdev digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: lpi-examdev Digest, Vol 85, Issue 12 (Simone Piccardi) 2. Re: lpi-examdev Digest, Vol 85, Issue 12 (Alexandru Juncu) 3. Re: lpi-examdev Digest, Vol 85, Issue 12 (G. Matthew Rice) 4. Re: lpi-examdev Digest, Vol 85, Issue 12 (Alexandru Juncu) 5. Re: lpi-examdev Digest, Vol 85, Issue 12 (G. Matthew Rice) 6. Re: lpi-examdev Digest, Vol 85, Issue 12 (Lennart Sorensen) 7. Re: lpi-examdev Digest, Vol 85, Issue 12 (John Lupa) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 18:50:50 +0100 From: Simone Piccardi <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [lpi-examdev] lpi-examdev Digest, Vol 85, Issue 12 To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed On 12/02/2015 10:42, Anselm Lingnau wrote: >> We could also consider some perl scripting in 102. Perl is designed >> for administration and reporting. [?] I believe a basic >> understanding of Bash scripting would provide students with a useful tool. > > I agree about bash scripting ? which already is on the LPIC-1 exam ? > but adding Perl to LPIC-1 would be a terrible move. +2 ! Simone -- Simone Piccardi Truelite Srl [email protected] (email/jabber) Via Monferrato, 6 Tel. +39-347-1032433 50142 Firenze http://www.truelite.it Tel. +39-055-7879597 Fax. +39-055-7333336 ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 18:54:43 +0100 From: Alexandru Juncu <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [lpi-examdev] lpi-examdev Digest, Vol 85, Issue 12 To: "This is the lpi-examdev mailing list." <[email protected]> Message-ID: <CAPhGq=zwh7ja8lophs56qnmofikkghtagz988wwcvo5zuqk...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 12 February 2015 at 18:50, Simone Piccardi <[email protected]> wrote: > On 12/02/2015 10:42, Anselm Lingnau wrote: >>> We could also consider some perl scripting in 102. Perl is designed >>> for administration and reporting. [?] I believe a basic >>> understanding of Bash scripting would provide students with a useful tool. >> >> I agree about bash scripting ? which already is on the LPIC-1 exam ? >> but adding Perl to LPIC-1 would be a terrible move. > +2 ! Perl has a significant fan base. Then again so has Python, Ruby, Php and other...But I don't think including any of them in LPIC-1 would be a good idea. I actually lived for so many years in the Linux world without learning Perl and I don't think I lost anything because of this. So, since it's not really needed, it shouldn't be pushed. ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:36:06 -0500 From: "G. Matthew Rice" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [lpi-examdev] lpi-examdev Digest, Vol 85, Issue 12 To: "This is the lpi-examdev mailing list." <[email protected]> Message-ID: <cafkqhhpfjgnpiookc9margdzr1+b30xhkgbs9gam2dseolf...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Alexandru Juncu <[email protected]> wrote: > Perl has a significant fan base. Then again so has Python, Ruby, Php > and other...But I don't think including any of them in LPIC-1 would be > a good idea. I actually lived for so many years in the Linux world > without learning Perl and I don't think I lost anything because of > this. So, since it's not really needed, it shouldn't be pushed. "To err is human, but to really foul things up you need Perl." Just kidding. I actually quite like it. -- G. Matthew Rice <[email protected]> gpg id: EF9AAD20 ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 20:39:45 +0100 From: Alexandru Juncu <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [lpi-examdev] lpi-examdev Digest, Vol 85, Issue 12 To: "This is the lpi-examdev mailing list." <[email protected]> Message-ID: <CAPhGq=ZkfRd9B4RB2_09cM6fmmESbrLC=d0kwno1v2sl0aa...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On 12 February 2015 at 20:36, G. Matthew Rice <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Alexandru Juncu <[email protected]> wrote: >> Perl has a significant fan base. Then again so has Python, Ruby, Php >> and other...But I don't think including any of them in LPIC-1 would >> be a good idea. I actually lived for so many years in the Linux >> world without learning Perl and I don't think I lost anything because >> of this. So, since it's not really needed, it shouldn't be pushed. > > "To err is human, but to really foul things up you need Perl." > > Just kidding. I actually quite like it. I don't doubt that and I am sure it's got many reasons for people to like it. Then again, the fact that I (generic "I") like something isn't a sufficient reason at add it to an exam that others will take. And since you are quoting : "A designer knows he has achieved perfection not when there is nothing left to add, but when there is nothing left to take away" :P ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 14:43:12 -0500 From: "G. Matthew Rice" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [lpi-examdev] lpi-examdev Digest, Vol 85, Issue 12 To: "This is the lpi-examdev mailing list." <[email protected]> Message-ID: <cafkqhhpnprx4ydnj7hd7vko4ekcuohtakzx5bjhzjcort3_...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 2:39 PM, Alexandru Juncu <[email protected]> wrote: > Then again, the fact that I (generic "I") like something isn't a > sufficient reason at add it to an exam that others will take. Agreed. It used to be in the LPIC-2 exams and I voted for its removal. -- G. Matthew Rice <[email protected]> gpg id: EF9AAD20 ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Thu, 12 Feb 2015 15:25:33 -0500 From: "Lennart Sorensen" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [lpi-examdev] lpi-examdev Digest, Vol 85, Issue 12 To: "This is the lpi-examdev mailing list." <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 02:36:06PM -0500, G. Matthew Rice wrote: > "To err is human, but to really foul things up you need Perl." > > Just kidding. I actually quite like it. I know perl quite well and use it quite a bit, and I sure think it is an awful language. Of course I use C even more and think that is a terrible language too. -- Len Sorensen ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 21:49:30 +1100 From: John Lupa <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [lpi-examdev] lpi-examdev Digest, Vol 85, Issue 12 To: "This is the lpi-examdev mailing list." <[email protected]> Message-ID: <caoj54arwt5bgo3xty1y3xw5rxv9q22ooquqefn3eu0egz23...@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" probably a scripting language should be recommended to be learned besides sh/bash? for maintenance tasks that a linux sysadmin would have to perform. sometimes another language helps (for example a while ago I wrote a test script that was taking some hours to run and rewriting it to use multi-threading in one of these languages its execution time was reduced DRAMATICALLY...) and having options is awesome - python, perl, php and others... On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 7:25 AM, Lennart Sorensen < [email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, Feb 12, 2015 at 02:36:06PM -0500, G. Matthew Rice wrote: > > "To err is human, but to really foul things up you need Perl." > > > > Just kidding. I actually quite like it. > > I know perl quite well and use it quite a bit, and I sure think it is > an awful language. Of course I use C even more and think that is a > terrible language too. > > -- > Len Sorensen > _______________________________________________ > lpi-examdev mailing list > [email protected] > http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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