Good morning,

in regard to Marco’s post I’d have to say, I slightly disagree. In my eyes, LPI 
was always a completely neutral certification. It shows some basic 
understanding in Linux, not in RedHat, SUSE or Debain. (Or any other 
distribution.) While I do see the point in waking curiosity and focusing on 
stuff the targeted audience may know and use, I do not think the 010 exam 
should focus on the Microsoft Linux Subsystem or raspbian (which are both based 
on Debian / Ubuntu).

Nevertheless, may be a more focused Exam may be apropirate; I remember, there 
used tob e an LPIC for Ubuntu. (Does that still exist?) So an Exam 011 – 
Essentials for Ubuntu (or Raspbian) wouldn’t be a bad idea.

With best regards from Bremen

Ortwin Ebhardt


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Auftrag von Marco Verleun
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. Oktober 2017 05:50
An: This is the lpi-examdev mailing list. <[email protected]>
Betreff: Re: [lpi-examdev] Linux Essentials Objectives Discussion

Good morning,

Thanks for opening the discussion on the 010 exam.

We are actively promoting the 010 exam at schools as a foundation to start 
working with Linux.
We do this for several reasons. Difficulty is one of them, but the fact that 
the exam doesn’t expire is another. When the students leave school they still 
hold a valid certificate.
I think it is fair to say that the 010 is meant for ‘beginners’ with Linux in 
general.

Most beginners (including students) often have a Raspberry Pi as a cheap device 
to play and experiment with. Hence their first encounter with Linux.
In the near future I anticipate that Windows administrators also want to have a 
basic introduction into Linux with the Linux Subsystem that Microsoft has 
introduced.
Next to that are others, developers etc. who need a basic understanding of the 
Linux command line since because they work with Git, developing IoT solutions 
etc.

All these people know that the world is bigger, they know there is Windows and 
macOS. They might know that Android is based on Linux, but is this relevant to 
check at the 010 exam?

I would like to keep the 010 exam as it is, one exam thats valid for live, but 
more to the point from the learners perspective.

Raspberry Pi’s nowadays are administered by using Google, cutting and pasting 
potential solutions without really understanding what they are doing. There 
have been reports about ‘insecure’ Raspberry Pi’s being connected directly to 
the internet with the default password still active for the user ‘pi’!

If the Linux Subsystem or the Raspberry Pi with Raspbian are the first (and 
only?) experience our target audience have and given that they are novices I 
would suggest that we focus on one package manager only, being apt. If they 
advanced they’ll progress into LPIC 1 and can be exposed to yum and others as 
well.

All questions and answers in the 010 exam should be verifiable on either 
Raspbian or the Linux Subsystem, this allows the candidates to prepare for the 
exam with what they have, making it easier and therefor more likely that they 
will attend an exam.
This will help us in our mission that there is less ignorance when connecting 
things to the internet, making the world a better place. Maybe even longing for 
LPIC 1 in the near future?

The objectives should also be stimulating their curiosity, making them eager to 
learn Linux. In my opinion this means that objectives about other OS’es should 
be removed from the exam, as simplifying the package management objectives.
I’m not sure that knowing which software is available is relevant for them. If 
they need to install additional software (Desktop, developer or services) 
they’ll find it using Google anyway or learn from their peers.

In short, more practical and more relevant for their current interest.

Just my thoughts.

Met vriendelijke groeten,

Marco Verleun


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Op 10 okt. 2017, om 22:10 heeft Fabian Thorns 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> het volgende geschreven:

We might want to start commenting on exam 010 here.
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