I agree w/ Peter.

Yours Irrespectively,

John

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lsr <lsr-boun...@ietf.org> On Behalf Of Peter Psenak
> Sent: Tuesday, March 5, 2019 2:38 AM
> To: tony...@tony.li; lsr@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Lsr] Open issues with Dynamic Flooding
> 
> Hi Tony,
> 
> On 04/03/2019 18:54 , tony...@tony.li wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > There are still two issues that need to be discussed and I was hoping that 
> > we
> could make progress on the mailing list before Prague.
> >
> > 1) Temporary additions to the flooding topology
> >
> >     There are several cases where we would like to make temporary additions
> to the flooding topology: repairing a partition of the flooding topology or
> adding a node to the base topology for the first time. We can:
> >
> >     (a) Temporarily add all of the links that would appear to remedy the
> partition. This has the advantage that it is very likely to heal the 
> partition and will
> do so in the minimal amount of convergence time.
> >
> >     (b) For each node adjacent to the partition, add no more than a single 
> > link
> across the partition.  If that does not repair the partition in a while (LSP
> propagation time + SPF time), then add another link.
> >          Iterate as necessary. This has the advantage that it minimizes the 
> > risk of
> creating a cascade failure.
> 
> I prefer (a) because of the faster convergence.
> Adding all links on a single node to the flooding topology is not going to 
> cause
> issues to flooding IMHO.
> 
> >
> > 2) Inclusion of pseduonodes in the System IDs TLV
> >
> >     In the general case, a topology can include LANs. If a LAN is in 
> > parallel with a
> P2P link, the Area Leader cannot currently distinguish between the two links.
> This can be of importance if there are other
> >     systems also on the LAN that should be using their LAN interface for
> flooding.
> >
> >     We propose to change the System IDs TLV to include a pseudo-node ID as
> well as the system ID.  It would also make sense to rename the TLV to be the
> “IS-IS Area Node IDs TLV”.
> >
> >     Behaviorally, we should add a requirement that if the Area Leader 
> > includes a
> pseudonode in the flooding topology, then all systems with an adjacency on 
> that
> LAN should use the LAN as part of the
> >     flooding topology, whether or not they are explicitly listed as 
> > adjacent to
> the LAN in the Flooding Path TLV.
> 
> given that the flooding on the LAN in both OSPF and ISIS is done as multicast,
> there is currently no way to enable flooding, either permanent or temporary,
> towards a subset of the neighbors on the LAN. So if the flooding is enabled 
> on a
> LAN it is done towards all routers connected to the it.
> 
> Given that all links between routers are p2p these days, I would vote for
> simplicity and make the LAN always part of the FT.
> 
> thanks,
> Peter
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > Thoughts? Comments? Flames?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Tony
> >
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