Ajun:

 

I’ll let Tony provide his answer to your question.   Let me provide an 
alternate topology that your example might fit into

 

 <https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-hares-lsr-grid-ring-convergence/> 
draft-hares-lsr-grid-ring-convergence-00.txt describes a problem with IGP 
convergence for the grid-ring phone topology that may be deployed in some 5G 
networks.  One way to solve the convergence problem is to provide an alternate 
fast convergence topology that uses hierarchy to provide shorter paths through 
the Grid portion of the grid-ring topology.  

 

Suppose in this topology, the regular IGP (ISIS) algorithm keeps the 2 level 
hierarchy.  

 

The alternate fast convergence algorithm uses a multiple level hierarchy in 
order to provide faster convergence.   The multiple levels provide “short-cut” 
paths for the IGP in a virtual topology in the Grid topology.  As discussions 
on this forum have indicated, the fast convergence topologies run in parallel 
with the normal IGP forwarding providing an alternate forwarding path.   If you 
would like me to explain how the hierarchy can provide faster convergence for a 
grid, I can provide that explanation to you (online or offline).    

 

Forwarding on the node needs to handle the multiple IGP routes.  Since  the 
fast convergence topologies provide early notification of forwarding problems 
in the normal IGP, the forward processing in the nodes might check this 
alternate topology for unknown routes.   Other ways of merging the two 
forwarding RIBs generated by the two IGPs also exist.  Since (per your example) 
R1 and R7 since the this link would be known to the regular IGP, the traffic 
could flow over this path. 

 

I hope this helps… 

 

Sue Hares 

 

PS – I would refresh the draft-hares-lsr-grid-ring-convergence-00.txt, but the 
draft submission seems to have a problem this morning.  This draft is still a 
rough draft. Some feedback I received indicates I should update sections.  

 

 

From: Lsr [mailto:lsr-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Aijun Wang
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2019 2:48 AM
To: tony...@tony.li; 'Robert Raszuk'
Cc: lsr@ietf.org
Subject: [Lsr] 答复: LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - 
draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01

 

Hi, Tony:

 

Would you like to elaborate this in more detail to show how you design the 
control plane hierarchically but the traffic can be transported horizontally? 
Let’s consider the following graph:

 



If, as you stated,  we connect R1 and R7 via one link(although we will not do 
so, if we design the network hierarchically), how you flood the link 
information hierarchically but let the traffic between the two connected L1 
area bypass the L2 area?

 

 

Best Regards.

 

Aijun Wang

China Telecom

 

 

 

发件人: lsr-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:lsr-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 tony...@tony.li
发送时间: 2019年8月15日 23:37
收件人: Robert Raszuk
抄送: lsr@ietf.org; Aijun Wang
主题: Re: [Lsr] LSR Working Group Adoption Call for "Hierarchical IS-IS" - 
draft-li-lsr-isis-hierarchical-isis-01

 

 

Hi Robert,

 

 

> The hierarchical arrangement of the control plane does NOT imply that the 
> data plane is necessarily hierarchical.  

 

Since Aijun posted his question I was trying to think of such model, but 
failed. 

 

While it is easy to envision this with DV protocols say BGP - do you have any 
pointer to a link state protocol architecture where data plane is non 
hierarchical (links do not belong to upper levels) while control plane used 
traverses multiple levels ? 

 

 

Consider any topology where two peer areas intersect.  At the intersection, 
traffic can transition between the areas without entering the parent level.

 

While I’m at it, I should also point out that the existence of hierarchy for 
the control plane does not mandate its use. This is another tool in the 
toolbox. Use the right tool for the job at hand.

 

Tony

 

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