Anything else than IGP metric based SPT is considered TE. Looking holistically 
- topology virtualization (or similar) could have been a better name.

Cheers,
Jeff
On Dec 3, 2020, 4:25 PM -0800, Robert Raszuk <rob...@raszuk.net>, wrote:
> Hi Tony,
>
> The moment I hit "Send" I knew that this response may be coming as it really 
> depends what is one's definition of TE.
>
> If indeed IGP TE is anything more then SPF - then sure we can call it a TE 
> feature.
>
> However, while a very useful and really cool proposal, my point is to make 
> sure this is not oversold - that's all.
>
> Best,
> R.
>
>
> > On Fri, Dec 4, 2020 at 1:13 AM Tony Li <tony1ath...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Robert,
> > >
> > >
> > > > However I really do not think that what Flexible Algorithm offers can 
> > > > be compared or even called as Traffic Engineering (MPLS or SR).
> > > >
> > > > Sure Flex Algo can accomplish in a very elegant way with little cost 
> > > > multi topology routing but this is not full TE. It can also direct 
> > > > traffic based on static or dynamic network preferences (link colors, 
> > > > rtt drops etc ... ),  but again it is not taking into account load of 
> > > > the entire network and IMHO has no way of accomplish TE level traffic 
> > > > distribution.
> > > >
> > > > Just to make sure the message here is proper.
> > >
> > >
> > > It’s absolutely true that FlexAlgo (IP or SR) has limitations. There’s no 
> > > bandwidth reservation. There’s no dynamic load balancing. No, it’s not a 
> > > drop in replacement for RSVP. No, it does not supplant SR-TE and a good 
> > > controller. Etc., etc., etc….
> > >
> > > However I don’t feel that it’s fair to say that FlexAlgo can’t be called 
> > > Traffic Engineering.  After all TE is a very broad topic. Everything that 
> > > we’ve done that’s more sophisticated than simple SPF falls in the area of 
> > > Traffic Engineering.  Link coloring and SRLG alone clearly fall into that 
> > > bucket.
> > >
> > > I’ll grant you that it may not have the right TE features for your 
> > > application, but that doesn’t mean that it’s not sufficient for some.  
> > > Please don’t mislead people by saying that it’s not Traffic Engineering.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Tony
> > >
> > >
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