Hi Ron, 

So perhaps, generic metric is not a legacy advertisement as strictly defined. 
However, we don't want to go down the path of treating new attributes in the 
same manner as legacy attributes. It seems the discussion is progressing and 
hopefully we will have a resolution. 

Thanks,
Acee

On 7/22/21, 1:28 PM, "Ron Bonica" <rbonica=40juniper....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

    Acee,

    I don't think that draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo-bw-con violates RFC 8919.

    Section 6.1 of RFC 8919 says:

    " New applications that future documents define to make use of the
       advertisements defined in this document MUST NOT make use of legacy
       advertisements.  This simplifies deployment of new applications by
       eliminating the need to support multiple ways to advertise attributes
       for the new applications."

    Section 3 of RFC 8919 defines legacy advertisements. The definition of 
legacy 
    advertisements does not include new attributes such as 
    generic metric. Therefore draft-ietf-lsr-flex-algo-bw-con does not 
    violate RFC 8919

    Relevant text from Section 3 of RFC 8919 is included below for convenience.

                                                                          Ron


    RFC 8919, Section 3
    ---------------------------
    3.  Legacy Advertisements


    Existing advertisements used in support of RSVP-TE include sub-TLVs
       for TLVs 22, 23, 25, 141, 222, and 223 and TLVs for Shared Risk Link
       Group (SRLG) advertisement.

       Sub-TLV values are defined in the "Sub-TLVs for TLVs 22, 23, 25, 141,
       222, and 223" registry.

       TLVs are defined in the "TLV Codepoints Registry".

    3.1.  Legacy Sub-TLVs

       +======+====================================+
       | Type | Description                        |
       +======+====================================+
       | 3    | Administrative group (color)       |
       +------+------------------------------------+
       | 9    | Maximum link bandwidth             |
       +------+------------------------------------+
       | 10   | Maximum reservable link bandwidth  |
       +------+------------------------------------+
       | 11   | Unreserved bandwidth               |
       +------+------------------------------------+
       | 14   | Extended Administrative Group      |
       +------+------------------------------------+
       | 18   | TE Default Metric                  |
       +------+------------------------------------+
       | 33   | Unidirectional Link Delay          |
       +------+------------------------------------+
       | 34   | Min/Max Unidirectional Link Delay  |
       +------+------------------------------------+
       | 35   | Unidirectional Delay Variation     |
       +------+------------------------------------+
       | 36   | Unidirectional Link Loss           |
       +------+------------------------------------+
       | 37   | Unidirectional Residual Bandwidth  |
       +------+------------------------------------+
       | 38   | Unidirectional Available Bandwidth |
       +------+------------------------------------+
       | 39   | Unidirectional Utilized Bandwidth  |
       +------+------------------------------------+

           Table 1: Sub-TLVs for TLVs 22, 23, 25,
                     141, 222, and 223



    Juniper Business Use Only

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    Speaking as WG member:

    I agree with Les. The Generic Metric MUST be advertised as an ASLA for 
usage in Flex Algorithm. Additionally, it may be advertised as a sub-TLV in 
IS-IS link TLVs. However, the latter encoding really shouldn't be used for new 
applications (at least that is my reading of RFC 8919).

    For OSPF, I'd certainly hope one wouldn't originate additional LSAs when an 
ASLA can support the legacy applications with the ASLA mask.

    Thanks,
    Acee



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