Hi Robert,

We were comparing OSPF and BGP and so it was the protocol FSMs. So we are
in sync on that part.

Thanks,
Ketan


On Tue, Feb 1, 2022 at 1:43 PM Robert Raszuk <rob...@raszuk.net> wrote:

> Ketan,
>
>
>> What the OSPF draft discusses in Sec 5 is a "hold-down" wait period where
>> even though the BFD session is established the protocol FSM does not
>> proceed further until a period of time has passed to ensure the stability
>> of the BFD session.
>>
>
> Which protocol FSM ? BFD FSM or OSPF FSM ?
>
> If BFD FSM then I think this is a false assumption or perhaps based on
> specific implementation. If OSPF FSM then we are all in sync.
>
> See the point being is that the BFD session UP the draft is referring to
> as a trigger for OSPF adj to come UP does not mean anything yet about
> path liveness (except proving that BFD control packets made it to a peer -
> depending on BFD mode of operation). So reacting on it immediately by any
> client would be a wrong thing to do.  I see nothing in section 6.2 of
> RFC5880 which would indicate any hold time or which would block BFD state
> transition to UP waiting for even single BFD Echo packet to be exchanged.
>
> BFD probing interval can be set to 2 sec and multiplier set to 3 which
> would mean that only after 6 sec from BFD UP state you would get some
> meaningful data about the link letting BFD Echo packets to get exchanged.
> If you bring OSPF adj. UP immediately after seeing BFD session UP you have
> not accomplished anything what wait-for-bfd is trying to do. With that I
> actually think the draft in the current form as stated in section 4 is
> harmful - it only mentions to wait for BFD session to get established.
>
> All along I was trying to highlight that point. And let me self correct
> one thing I said earlier ... In one of the emails to Albert I mentioned
> that such timer could be 0. Well not really - the min amount of time
> between BFD UP and OSPF adj. UP should be: (BFD probing interval x
> multiplier) + time it takes on a given platform to sent messages between
> LCs and RE/RP.
>
> Regards,
> Robert.
>
>
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