Hi Chris,

The conversation is about "slow router" in transit position.

/Louis

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Louis Chan <lou...@juniper.net> writes:

> Hi All,
>
> Here is an email I would like to address multiple comments and issues.
>
> My comment starts with [lc]
>
> /Louis
>
> 1. About the weakest control plane
>
>>>> From Chris. H
>
> Operators with 1000s of routers and routers with 1000s of interfaces
> don't create flooding choke-points, and especially don't then drop
> crappy routers in said choke-points. We should not modify our routing
> protocols to support such poor network design.
>
> <<<
>
>
>
> [lc] For a network of 1000+ routers, it is usually NOT a greenfield
> deployment. It is likely a brownfield deployment.
>
> There are reasons that these older generations of routers could not be
> replaced easily. One common problem is the legacy interface support,
> and the port density of such low speed interfaces.

I did not say that operators have no slow/crappy routers.

> Have you heard that some operators still ask for 1G/10G support in new
> core router?
>
> Therefore, it requires some method to let these "weaker" control
> planes to co-exist, plus rather predictable network stability. I'll
> show you how it can be achieved.

No it doesn't, since slow routers on the network edge work just fine w/o 
affecting overall stability or flooding speed of the core.

Thanks,
Chris.
[as wg-member]

> [/lc]

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