Hi, Tony:

I think you are referring RFC6232, and 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-li-lsr-ospf-purge-originator/, right?
Based on these extensions for identifying the originator of the purge LSA, I 
think it is easier to introduce the proxy neighbor for IS-IS/OSPF.

For the selection of the proxy for one router from its neighbors, isn't it also 
simper than the selection of "Area Leader"? 
Just want to be clarified: normally, only ONE proxy for each router needs to be 
selected from its neighbor--------Sound like the candidate president select his 
running mate.

Such protocol extension is more clear to solve the mentioned race condition, 
and is more traceable.


Best Regards

Aijun Wang
China Telecom

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发件人: forwardingalgori...@ietf.org [mailto:forwardingalgori...@ietf.org] 代表 Tony 
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主题: [Lsr] Re: [Proxy of LSA Originator]Re: About Premature aging of LSA and 
Purge LSA


Hi,

I was going to stay out of this, but then you went and picked on me.


> The links that you provided has no relation for the discussions of "proxy of 
> LSA originator".  Would you like to provide other pointer to support Tony's 
> assertion?


If you look back a few years, you will find the discussion of IS-IS purge 
origination TLV.  Part of that was a band-aid to counter the fact that the 
original protocol allowed any system to purge anything at any time for any 
reason.  This was basically an undebuggable problem as any system in the area 
could have triggered it.


> And, we have now the "area proxy for IS-IS 
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-lsr-isis-area-proxy-12";, why 
> can't we try the neighbor proxy solution?


Just because both use the word ‘proxy’ doesn’t mean that they have anything to 
do with one another.  In Area Proxy, it is VERY clear who the actor is: the 
area leader. All systems have elected this.


> Why don't clear the stale LSPs in advance by the proxy neighbor?    


Because you create a race condition and you create a traceability problem.  And 
there are already simpler ways of solving this without protocol additions.

Tony

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