Hi Aijun,

Please take my email literally. I didn't mean to say anything more or
anything to be read between the lines.

Thanks,
Ketan

On Fri, Oct 25, 2024 at 1:21 PM Aijun Wang <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi, Ketan:
>
> I have read your mail. If you mean that currently there are only two IS-IS 
> TLVs(Type 22 and Type 135) needs to be extended, then all the contents of 
> section 8.2 should be removed.
>
> And the sentence in the abstract of this document——“ This document codifies 
> the common mechanism of extending the TLV content space through multiple 
> TLVs.”SHOULD be replaced with “This document codifies the “what constitutes a 
> key” for two IS-IS TLVs.”
>
> After the above changes, I will support its forwarding.
>
> Aijun Wang
> China Telecom
>
> On Oct 25, 2024, at 10:30, 【外部账号】Ketan Talaulikar <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
>
> 
> Hi Aijun,
>
> Since you bring up vagueness and interoperability, please refer to my 
> suggestion here: 
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/lsr/U3ImXcT5yDgvFCb3VLa5t9C4As4/
>
> HTH
>
> Thanks,
> Ketan
>
>
>
> On Fri, 25 Oct, 2024, 4:32 am Aijun Wang, <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi, Acee and Ketan:
>>
>> Then, the proposed MP-TLV draft should state clearly that it clarifies the 
>> “what constitutes a key” for two TLVs only and such definition(“what 
>> constitutes a key”) for other TLVs are left for further studies or 
>> clarification.
>>
>> Even done so, the declaration of “MP-TLV capabilities” has still some 
>> vagueness: because such declaration is IS-IS TLV type independent, the 
>> communication peers can’t decide the other side has which one of the MP-TLV 
>> supported? The interoperability issues will be arose also.
>>
>> Given there are potential other big IS-IS TLVs
>> are emerging, the road to solve such problems will be an dead end.
>>
>> Aijun Wang
>> China Telecom
>>
>> > On Oct 25, 2024, at 00:57, 【外部账号】Acee Lindem <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > Speaking as WG member:
>> >
>> > I agree totally with Ketan and, at least in my case, stems from the fact 
>> > that I’m less familiar with IS-IS than OSPF.
>> >
>> > If there are WG participants who have both the IS-IS expertise and 
>> > bandwidth, this might be a good topic for an informational draft.
>> >
>> > We certainly shouldn’t stale this work as documenting the vagaries of 
>> > IS-IS wasn’t within original purpose or scope of this document.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Acee
>> >
>> >> On Oct 24, 2024, at 12:28, Ketan Talaulikar <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> FWIW those were the reasons why I am supporting publication of this
>> >> document after raising the same question originally.
>> >>
>> >> I think those that are still raising Qs about the "lack of clarity" on
>> >> keys should look over the specific TLVs/sub-TLVs and identify what is
>> >> not clear. I did that for a good chunk (what I felt were important and
>> >> with potential to "grow large") to satisfy myself and I encourage
>> >> others that have doubts to do the same.
>> >>
>> >> If there is something really unclear, we can solve those individual
>> >> issues rather than stalling this work.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Ketan
>> >>
>> >>> On Thu, Oct 24, 2024 at 9:27 PM Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
>> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> Changwang –
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>>

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