Folks -


This draft replaces the earlier 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-rigatoni-lsr-isis-fragment-timestamping/ 
.



What I found surprising - partially because I had not yet read the updated 
draft - is that the focus of the draft significantly changed.



Draft-rigatoni focused on the use case for:



  *   measure flood delays across diameter, max/deviation/etc
  *   measure on TED database how quickly information from nodes propagates to
  *   allow better optimization of TE under congestion
  *   be able to indicate when a node issued the last fragment (stability of 
network)



(Note: These bullet points are from 
https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/120/materials/slides-120-lsr-isis-fragment-timestamping-01
   - which was the last time the draft was presented.)



Now the draft /presentation is focused on replay.

Indeed, the word “replay” appears 16 times in the latest draft – but appears 
not at all in previous versions.



Tony – you certainly have the right to change direction – especially since this 
is an individual contribution - but this did catch me by surprise . 😊



As regards past discussion about replay and IS-IS, the following references are 
relevant:



RFC 7602<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc7602/> - IS-IS Extended Sequence 
Number TLV

rfc7645<https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/rfc7645/> - The Keying and 
Authentication for Routing Protocol (KARP) IS-IS Security Analysis



There is also the discussion on the (then) IS-IS WG list. Here’s a pointer to 
some of that discussion:  
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/isis-wg/?gbt=1&index=N_lEZcMTeNCeuu1-8pZQQVsNhrY



Much of that discussion considered the existing resilience of LSPs to replay 
attacks and the problems associated with introducing a new replay mechanism 
into LSPs – especially considering partial deployment. This is why RFC 7602 
intentionally does not apply to LSPs.



HTH



   Les






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