> On 25 Apr 2020, at 20:44, Marc Sunet <[email protected]> wrote: > > So you really are going to make me click on that google link, aren't you > David :)? > > Asymptomatic transmission was first discussed in my 1997 paper, which is also available in the files area:
https://groups.io/g/MedicalEthics <https://groups.io/g/MedicalEthics> dss > Would you please summarise how the asymptomatic transmission is handled then? > > On 4/25/20 11:40 AM, David Stodolsky wrote: >> >> >>> On 25 Apr 2020, at 19:38, Marc Sunet <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Sorry, I still don't understand how the system you describe in that >>> video would work at scale, nor how it protects people's privacy. >> >> The video is not intended to answer these questions. >> It aims to show how exposure can be avoided. >> >> >>> >>> >>> I also don't see how the system would work at scale. In example (1), >>> rooms 1 and 2 are marked as contaminated simply because the person "was >>> feeling under the weather”. >> >> The rooms are marked contaminated as a result of a test, in the first >> instance. >> >> >> dss >> >>> >>> Marc >>> >>> On 4/25/20 12:46 AM, David Stodolsky wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 24 Apr 2020, at 22:43, msunet <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Another one I forgot: what about asymptomatic transmission, which seems >>>>> quite big on this virus? (I think recent estimates in the US give 5-20 >>>>> unknown infected for every known case; forgot the reference, sorry). I >>>>> don't see how the tact systems can help with that; those people might >>>>> never know they are carriers. >>>> This issue is dealt with in my proposal: >>>> >>>> https://groups.io/g/MedicalEthics/message/57 >>>> <https://groups.io/g/MedicalEthics/message/57> >>>> >>>> >>>> This movie shows operation of a central location service that supplies >>>> info to users that use it for local (decentral) decision making >>>> (illustrates the general principle of assessment of risk without a >>>> diagnostic test being required): >>>> >>>> https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/0704kMeGUK13pjAZXoq4hXx4w#VirusRadarSimulation3 >>>> >>>> <https://www.icloud.com/iclouddrive/0704kMeGUK13pjAZXoq4hXx4w#VirusRadarSimulation3> >>>> >>>> discussed in this document: >>>> >>>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_zxYlTkSnKQZXFsXzNwSDd3ZGs >>>> <https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B_zxYlTkSnKQZXFsXzNwSDd3ZGs> >>>> >>>> >>>> dss >>>> >>>> David Stodolsky, PhD Institute for Social Informatics >>>> Tornskadestien 2, st. th., DK-2400 Copenhagen NV, Denmark >>>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>>> Tel./Signal: +45 3095 4070 >>>> >>> -- >>> GPG: 9C2A AF1D CC91 0A53 AB0A B6A1 C457 0E01 081F 8F91 >>> >>> https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/ <https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/> >>> >>> >> >> David Stodolsky, PhD Institute for Social Informatics >> Tornskadestien 2, st. th., DK-2400 Copenhagen NV, Denmark >> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >> Tel./Signal: +45 3095 4070 >> > -- > GPG: 9C2A AF1D CC91 0A53 AB0A B6A1 C457 0E01 081F 8F91 > > https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/ <https://emailselfdefense.fsf.org/> David Stodolsky, PhD Institute for Social Informatics Tornskadestien 2, st. th., DK-2400 Copenhagen NV, Denmark [email protected] Tel./Signal: +45 3095 4070
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