ah - thank you. my ideas go to a little different direction - but this is very good material to study, get inspiration or "borrow" some ideas :) regards roland
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason A. Pattie" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "John McCreesh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "roland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 7:15 PM Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] session management in vnc like in citrix or sunray ? > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > We've already done this kind of work with the vnc-X-session project. > You can check it out at http://www.pcxperience.org/thinclientdevel.html > at the bottom of the page. > > John McCreesh wrote: > > I think the guys at netproject http://www.netproject.com have done > > something like this in the open-source world, where users can move > > seamlessly from one workstation to another. Sun's SunRays are something > > similar in the proprietary world. > > > > John > > > > On Sat, 22 Mar 2003 22:12:33 +0100 > > "roland" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>Hi Terminalguys :) > >> > >>I already posted this mail to the vnc mailinglist - but I think a posting > >>here will give me more feedback about this. As far as I can see, the > >>"roaming Desktop" feature in Thin Computing with Linux is still to be > done. > >>With X itself, we have no option - it would be VERY difficult to > implement, > >>because how should one tell the X-App that the User "moved" from > Terminal A > >>to Terminal B ? Perhaps some sort of "X-Proxy" would be an option - but I > >>think, the most compromising approach for this, is to enhance VNC for that > >>purpose. > >>Please give me feedback, what you think. > >>Since i`m sysadmin/sysengineer i`m not very good in programming, but if > >>there is interest, I would at least try to start and maintain a project, > >>which aims at giving "session management" (and loadbalancing???...) > feature > >>to VNC. > >> > >>regards > >>Roland > >> > >> > >> > >>---------------- > >> > >>hello! > >> > >>i`m using a setup of xvnc under inetd and kdm control, so each user can > >>connect and get`s his own desktop. noone has to "fiddle around" with > >>dedicated port-numbers, which he has to connect to. this makes the "linux > >>terminal server alterative" become somewhat realitiy, but unfortunaly, we > >>loose the "preserve session state"-feature of vnc here, because each time > >>the user closes vncviewer, the serving xvnc process dies. > >>see very good docs at: > >>http://www.sourcecodecorner.com/articles/vnc/linux.asp > >> > >>I wonder, if there is anybody around, thinking of implementing a layer of > >>"session management" into vnc, that users can reconnect to (one of) his > >>previously established and disconnected session(s). > >> > >>This would make the "roaming desktop" possible - without the need, to > assign > >>dedicated port numbers to users and pre-spawning xnvc processes for ALL of > >>them. > >> > >>It could be done by adding a "dispatcher" in front (or inside?) xvnc > which > >>is able to manage sessions previously established. sure, some sort of > >>authentication needs to be done at this level, because the only reasonable > >>way to re-establish sessions and to route it to the appropriate client, is > >>to get known, WHO is reconnecting. > >> > >>I administer citrix servers, which have this feature - when the user > >>reconnects he is routed to his old session. if he has more than one > >>disconnected session, he can choose, which he wants to re-establish. I > also > >>have some experience with sunray terminals - which have this feature in "2 > >>flavours". The user is able to re-establish a disconnected session by > >>entering login/password OR by using a smartcard (whereas the sunray > x-server > >>process[==xvnc] is "bound" to a smartcard - so the user inserts his > >>smartcard at any terminal and gets back his personal desktop) > >> > >>are there any solutions around or is there any work in progress, > >>implementing > >>this with vnc ? > >>i`m really shure this IS possible with reasonable effort. > (unfortunately i`m > >>awful bad programmer, otherwise i would do that myself :) > >> > >>regards > >>roland > >> > >> > >> > >>------------------------------------------------------- > >>This SF.net email is sponsored by:Crypto Challenge is now open! > >>Get cracking and register here for some mind boggling fun and > >>the chance of winning an Apple iPod: > >>http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?thaw0031en > >>_____________________________________________________________________ > >>Ltsp-discuss mailing list. 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