On Friday 14 July 2006 02:46, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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> Words from yet another newbie... please be patient.
>
> Career Microsoft folks (like myself) wanting to move from the Microsoft
> community to the Open Source Linux community face enormous challenges when
> first arriving in the neighborhood. We don't understand the "lingo" or even
> where to go to find anything that looks vaguely familiar.
>
> I have been recruited to help design and implement a computer lab for a
> neighborhood private school (K-12). The largest factor was $$COST$$. They
> have a big need and a small budget. They've received a donation of 30+
> 100Mhz Pentium PC's with 64Mb Ram, 1GB Hard Disk, and 10/100 Nics. The cost
> of implementing new "Dell's" was around $15,000... (way over budget). What
> is the budget? The least expensive method possible. So, my research has
> begun. I thought about Citrix on a Microsoft Server, but there were all of
> the licensing $$COST$$. So, I considered researching Open Source solutions.
>
> I got super pumped when I Googled "Open Source Linux Terminal Server" and
> the 2nd item was titled, "K12 Linux in Schools Project". I read all of the
> "Testimonials" and "Case Studies" and determined that this was a perfect
> match.
>
> I downloaded the *K12LTSP 4.4.1 - Install CD-ROMs* and commenced to
> installing it on a donated 1.4GHz AMD PC with 4GB of RAM. I emulated an
> Ethernet bootrom on the client PC's by booting from a floppy disk created
> from the http://www.Rom-O-Matic.net <http://www.rom-o-matic.net/> site.
> Within an hour after having the LTSP server online, I had 3 of the 100MHz
> Pentium PC's connected and working.
>
> Super! Great! But that seems to be where the Magic ends.
>
> And now the point!
>
> In the Windows world it is easy to configure the "All Users" Start Menu
> (C:\Documents and Settings\All Users\Start Menu), or customize a Start Menu
> for a particular user. You can customize the Default User environment
> (local machine) as a template for subsequent new users.
> When incorporating Citrix into the Mix, you can install software on the
> Citrix server and "Publish" the application for a particular user or group.
>
> My questions:
>
> 1) How / Where do you configure LTSP to segregate "Teachers" from
> "Students", "3rd Grade" from "12th Grade", so that each "group" gets the
> appropriate desktop and program menu respective to their roles in the
> school? A 3rd Grader does not need the same applications, shortcuts, etc as
> a 12th Grader.
>
> 2) What are other schools using for URL filtering and Surf Control to keep
> students from "stumbling" across Porn Sites or any other topic deemed
> "inappropriate"?
>
> Thanks for your patience.

I guess the most noticeable difference between MS and 'linux' in whatever form 
is Winders says 'do it my way, the one true way, the only way' linux says 
'you choose'.

I would ask 1 question, collect the answers, take a small step forward.

So
How do you implement groups and privileges: (I don't know what k12 do, it may 
be more clever than this)

By who the login person is (modern programs and desktops make multiple logins 
of the same name rather iffy, even though it would be helpful here)

login                   privilege
-------------+--------------------
rm23            all
r231            pupils in room 23
r232            same password for
r233            for whole class

rm24            all
r241            pupils in room 24
etc

rm3             all
r31             pupils in room 3
-------------+-------------------

The implementation depends on your other choices, and I would also consider 
how others did it. At the moment your needs are such that just about any 
answer is a right answer. I think k12 have narrowed the scope somewhat.

James


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