there's no doubt that the LTSP-5 in Ubuntu and Debian doesn't boot as 
fast as LTSP-4.2 did.

With LTSP-4.2, we spent an awful lot of time trimming things down as 
much as possible, which had a great effect on the boot speed.

LTSP-5 is a complete re-design, and it hasn't had that fine tuning yet.  
But, believe me, at ever Ubuntu developer summit that we've been invited 
to (4 of them now), the speed of the boot has been high on my list of 
needing attention.  I think Oliver has actually knocked about 30 seconds 
out of the boot time, but there's still more work needed.

One of the things that I've noticed is the thin clients that have 
several USB ports are the ones that take a long time to boot.  For 
instance, an HP5505 was taking about 2 minutes to boot, where a T-150 
was taking only about 65 seconds.

LTSP-5 is getting alot of our attention right now, and we'll continue 
streamlining it, to reduce the boot time and memory requirements.

Jim McQuillan
[EMAIL PROTECTED]



Anthony M Simonelli wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-02-27 at 08:45 -0600, Scott Balneaves wrote:
>   
>> Anthony M Simonelli wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> My question is, where has the drop in speed at boot come from?  Has
>>> anyone experienced anything similar?
>>>       
>> LTSP 4.2 was a highly customized boot process, specifically tailored to a 
>> thin-client environment.  Pared down rc scripts that executed things in the 
>> most efficient order, didn't call external programs like awk or sed, but did 
>> everything with shell tricks, etc.
>>
>> LTSP5's a different, and evolving beast.  We're using the distro packages 
>> now, 
>> which may or may not be as optimized as the 4.2 custom ones.  Ubuntu has 
>> shown 
>> a great lead in modifying some of their packages to work better in a 
>> thin-client environment, and now Debian, Fedora and Gentoo are all working 
>> on 
>> LTSP5 spec environments.
>>
>> Given time, the packages that get used in both thick and thin client 
>> environments in distros will see some optimization, and boot times will drop.
>>
>> In the mean time, actual performance AFTER the boot are pretty much the 
>> same, 
>> so that's a good thing.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>     
>
> I have to agree that I do NOT see a drop in performance once the user is
> logged in; it is virtually the same.  I figured that the packages from
> LTSP must be optimized in some way, and that's what I was trying to
> explain to my boss.  I personally don't have a problem with a minute and
> a half boot because once I sign on I'm ready to go.  Sure the Windows
> boxes at our workplace will boot in thirty seconds, but after you sign
> in and all of the start-up programs and anti-virus run, you have to wait
> another thirty seconds before you can do anything!
>
>
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