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This post is example of why I hate top posting. Not that subject
thread gets jumbled but look at the context and contents. A thread
hijacking without even snip. The post is interesting in itself but
....enough said.
Sudev Barar

On 15/03/07, Tanner Bachman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I currently have about 35 terminals connected to an LTSP server and
> everything runs fine.  I setup a cronjob to shutdown all the terminals at
> 8:00PM each night.  The cronjob runs a shell script that essesentially runs
> the following command: ltspinfo --shutdown -h xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx  All the
> terminals power off and the world stays round.  However, yesterday I added
> another terminal to the mix.  This terminal is based around the VIA
> EPIA-M10000-LVDS mini-ITX motherboard.  I built the system and set it up
> normally on the LTSP server and it boots right up and runs fine...and then
> later that night the server powered it down along with all the other
> terminals.  This morning I tried to boot the new terminal up and it exits
> the PXE boot before even trying to contact the DHCP server.  I poked around
> in the BIOS and everything is set properly, but what finally did the trick
> was removing power (physically unplugging the system) and then plugging it
> in again.  I have tested this several times today by manually running the
> ltspinfo command on that terminal and each time it refuses to boot afterward
> unless it's unplugged first.  Obviously it's jamming up the network
> interface and locking out the ROM option.  I'm just curious as to whether or
> not anyone else has had an issue like this before.  I know that I haven't
> with any other computers on the network and they are not all the same.  For
> reference, this board uses the VIA CLE266/VT8235 Chipset and the LAN
> interface is controlled by the VIA VT6103 chip.  Any thoughts would be much
> appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Tanner Bachman
> Director of Information Technology
>
> Montana Harley-Davidson
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>    1. Re: DHCP on alternate ports (Steve Cayford)
>    2. Re: Problem with the LDM login on the clients (Alban Bernard)
>    3. Re: fuse/localdev problem on debian etch amd64 (Ryan Boyes)
>    4. Thin Client Flash Gets Mounted (Anthony M Simonelli)
>    5. network architecture question (bill)
>    6. Re: network architecture question (Antony Gelberg)
>    7. Re: network architecture question (bill)
>    8. Re: network architecture question (bill)
>    9. Re: network architecture question (John Lucas)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 15:18:22 -0500
> From: Steve Cayford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] DHCP on alternate ports
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Steve Cayford wrote:
> > [...]
> > I followed the recommendations in this discussion,
> > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg00175.h
> > tml , however the "ipconfig -p 1068 ${DEVICE}" line in /scripts/nfs
> > doesn't seem to help. I verified that it is changed in the new initrd
> > that I created in /opt/ltsp/i386.
>
> If I may reply to myself...
>
> I was missing the mkelf-linux step. I ran that to create a new nbi image,
> copied it into /var/lib/tftpboot/i386/ and now things are good to go.
>
> --
>
> Steven Cayford
> McNamara Academic Center
> University of Minnesota
> http://gopheracademics.com
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>
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 20:37:32 +0000
> From: Alban Bernard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] Problem with the LDM login on the clients
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1251
>
> Hi,
>
> Your ssh configuration seems to be ok. Did you have X / gnome installed on
> the server that runs debian sid ? The problem sounds like an ssh tunnel
> created between an X client running on your workstation and ...
> nothing ... (no X display available on your ltsp server).
>
> Ldm login manager tries to run startx or X-thing on server side but the
> executable is not there and the ssh tunnel ends prematurely.
>
> Alban Bernard.
>
>
> Plamen Grozev wrote:
> > Hi, all! I'm using Debian sid and LTSP-5. The clients' boot is ok, but
> when i want to log in with LDM, i've got a black screen and i return to the
> logging manager. I did ltsp-update-sshkeys, I regenerated the server's keys
> and again ltsp-update-sshkeys, but no changes.
> > /var/log/auth.log says:
> > nishava sshd[3548]: Accepted password for test1 from 172.24.1.25 port
> > 4375 ssh2 nishava sshd[3550]: (pam_unix) session opened for user test1
> > by (uid=0)
> >
> > /var/log/daemon.log says:
> > nishava dhcpd: DHCPACK on 172.24.1.25 to 00:01:02:3c:5a:f6 via eth0
> > nishava mountd[3116]: authenticated mount request from ws005.ltsp:963
> > for /opt/ltsp/i386 (/opt/ltsp)
> >
> > when I try to login with normal user, and get the same result, I login
> > locally as root and /var/log/ldm.log says: /etc/X11/Xsession:
> > Permission denied
> >
> > My full /var/log/ldm.log is here:
> > info: Not enabling sound support.
> > ssh command line: ['ssh', '-v', '-X', '-c',
> > 'blowfish-cbc,aes128-cbc,3des-cbc', '[EMAIL PROTECTED]', '/bin/bash',
> > '--login', '-c', '\' env LTSP_CLIENT="ltsp" /etc/X11/Xsession \'',
> > ';', 'kill -1 $PPID']
> > OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-9, OpenSSL 0.9.8e 23 Feb 2007
> > debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
> > debug1: Applying options for *
> > debug1: Connecting to 172.24.1.1 [172.24.1.1] port 22.
> > debug1: Connection established.
> > debug1: permanently_set_uid: 0/0
> > debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/identity type -1
> > debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/id_rsa type -1
> > debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/id_dsa type -1
> > debug1: Remote protocol version 2.0, remote software version
> > OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-9
> > debug1: match: OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-9 pat OpenSSH*
> > debug1: Enabling compatibility mode for protocol 2.0
> > debug1: Local version string SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_4.3p2 Debian-9
> > debug1: An invalid name was supplied
> > Configuration file does not specify default realm
> >
> > debug1: An invalid name was supplied
> > A parameter was malformed
> > Validation error
> >
> > debug1: An invalid name was supplied
> > Configuration file does not specify default realm
> >
> > debug1: An invalid name was supplied
> > A parameter was malformed
> > Validation error
> >
> > debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT sent
> > debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEXINIT received
> > debug1: kex: server->client blowfish-cbc hmac-md5 none
> > debug1: kex: client->server blowfish-cbc hmac-md5 none
> > debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REQUEST(1024<1024<8192) sent
> > debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_GROUP
> > debug1: SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_INIT sent
> > debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_KEX_DH_GEX_REPLY
> > debug1: Host '172.24.1.1' is known and matches the RSA host key.
> > debug1: Found key in /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts:4
> > debug1: ssh_rsa_verify: signature correct
> > debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS sent
> > debug1: expecting SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS
> > debug1: SSH2_MSG_NEWKEYS received
> > debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_REQUEST sent
> > debug1: SSH2_MSG_SERVICE_ACCEPT received
> > debug1: Authentications that can continue: publickey,password
> > debug1: Next authentication method: publickey
> > debug1: Trying private key: /root/.ssh/identity
> > debug1: Trying private key: /root/.ssh/id_rsa
> > debug1: Trying private key: /root/.ssh/id_dsa
> > debug1: Next authentication method: password
> > debug1: read_passphrase: can't open /dev/tty: No such device or
> > address
> > debug1: Authentication succeeded (password).
> > debug1: channel 0: new [client-session]
> > debug1: Entering interactive session.
> > debug1: Requesting X11 forwarding with authentication spoofing.
> > debug1: Sending environment.
> > debug1: Sending command: /bin/bash --login -c ' env LTSP_CLIENT="ltsp"
> > /etc/X11/Xsession ' ; kill -1 $PPID
> > env: /etc/X11/Xsession: Permission denied
> > debug1: channel 0: free: client-session, nchannels 1
> > debug1: fd 0 clearing O_NONBLOCK
> > debug1: fd 1 clearing O_NONBLOCK
> > Connection to 172.24.1.1 closed by remote host.
> > debug1: Transferred: stdin 0, stdout 0, stderr 49 bytes in 0.0 seconds
> > debug1: Bytes per second: stdin 0.0, stdout 0.0, stderr 1056.1
> > debug1: Exit status -1
> >
> > Any suggestions are welcomed, thank you in advance :)
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> ------------------------------
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:17:15 +1100
> From: Ryan Boyes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] fuse/localdev problem on debian etch amd64
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> On Fri, 2007-03-09 at 23:26 +0100, Gian Carlo Stagni wrote:
> > Ryan Boyes ha scritto:
> > >  Hi list members,
> > >
> > > I am trying to get ltsp-4.2 localdev sorted. So close, but have hit
> > > a stumbling block. I am using debian etch for AMD-64 architecture.
> > > The devices appear on the desktop of the client but with no
> > > contents. After working through the troubleshooting on the ltsp wiki
> > > and browsing the list, I think the problem is the version of fuse that
> is installed:
> > In /etc/udev/permissions.rules I have:
> > ---
> > KERNEL=="fuse", NAME="%k", MODE="0666", OWNER="root", GROUP="fuse"
> > ---
> >
> > and "ls -l /usr/bin/fusermount" says:
> > ---
> > -rwsr-xr-x 1 root fuse 18368 2006-09-09 21:24 /usr/bin/fusermount
> > ---
> >
> > It may be too permissive, but this allows me not to add every user to
> > the "fuse" group (we are a school: many teachers and plenty of students).
> >
>
> Thanks GC. My fusermount permissions are identical and /dev/fuse is owned by
> "root" with group ownership "fuse" so I don't think thats the problem. I
> re-installed etch on the server but with i386 architecture so I could use
> the sarge libfuse2 pkg which is 2.2 but it has made no difference.
>
> step 11 on
> http://wiki.ltsp.org/twiki/bin/view/Ltsp/LTSP-42-LocalDev#Troubleshooting I
> get the following:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /usr/sbin/lbus_event_handler.sh add block /tmp 1024 Temp
> fusermount: mount failed: Invalid argument
>
> and:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /usr/sbin/lbus_event_handler.sh remove block /tmp 1024 
> Temp
> fusermount: entry for /home/jmassey/Drives/tmp not found in /etc/mtab
>
> So the lbus_event_handler.sh is firing off an invalid argument when it calls
> fusermount? Not sure where I should look next.
>
> Ryan
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 23:22:31 -0500
> From: Anthony M Simonelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Ltsp-discuss] Thin Client Flash Gets Mounted
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
> Running Ubuntu 6.10 / LTSP 5.  When I turned on local device support,
> everything worked perfectly; USB, floppy, CD-ROM, even the local hard drive
> on a PC running as a thin client.
>
> The problem is that it works too well.  The HP T5125's thin clients that I
> use have 32MB of flash memory on it with a HP version of Linux installed.
> There are no other drives obviously(CD-ROM, IDE, etc.) but because the flash
> memory is detected and contains a file system, it is mounted as two drives
> (ata1, ata2) that are unusable.  The strange thing is, when the user logs
> out and then logs back in, they disappear (are unmounted).
>
> What can I do to disable those from getting detected/mounted the first time
> the user logs in?  Can certain devices be disabled from local device support
> in LTSP 5 such as flash memory?  Anyone have similar experiences?
> --
> Anthony M Simonelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:35:25 -0500
> From: bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Ltsp-discuss] network architecture question
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> Currently have a two nic setup using ubuntu and LTSP5.  My thin clients
> are on the server side (192.168.0.1) and the rest of my computers are on
> the gateway side (192.168.1.1).  My question is if I wanted to run a
> virtual machine thin client (vmware) on one of my desktops is there any
> way to cross connect those networks so I can get to the server side from
> the gateway side?  I tried connecting an ethernet cable between the two
> switches but it seemed to stun the network with a bunch of traffic.  Is
> there any way to do this?  I have looked around a bit but don't know the
> words for what I am trying to do. Do I need managed switches?
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 13:51:04 +0000
> From: Antony Gelberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] network architecture question
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> bill wrote:
> > Currently have a two nic setup using ubuntu and LTSP5.  My thin clients
> > are on the server side (192.168.0.1) and the rest of my computers are on
> > the gateway side (192.168.1.1).  My question is if I wanted to run a
> > virtual machine thin client (vmware) on one of my desktops is there any
> > way to cross connect those networks so I can get to the server side from
> > the gateway side?  I tried connecting an ethernet cable between the two
> > switches but it seemed to stun the network with a bunch of traffic.  Is
> > there any way to do this?  I have looked around a bit but don't know the
> > words for what I am trying to do. Do I need managed switches?
> >
>
> I might have missed something, but if you have two NICs in a box on
> different subnets, can't you enable access between subnets simply by
> switching on IP forwarding?
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 08:57:22 -0500
> From: bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] network architecture question
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>
> I guess that is what I am asking.  Essentially I would like the desktops
> connected to the gateway side of the server to be able to access the pxe
> boot on the client side.
>
> Bill
>
> Antony Gelberg wrote:
> > bill wrote:
> >
> >> Currently have a two nic setup using ubuntu and LTSP5.  My thin clients
> >> are on the server side (192.168.0.1) and the rest of my computers are on
> >> the gateway side (192.168.1.1).  My question is if I wanted to run a
> >> virtual machine thin client (vmware) on one of my desktops is there any
> >> way to cross connect those networks so I can get to the server side from
> >> the gateway side?  I tried connecting an ethernet cable between the two
> >> switches but it seemed to stun the network with a bunch of traffic.  Is
> >> there any way to do this?  I have looked around a bit but don't know the
> >> words for what I am trying to do. Do I need managed switches?
> >>
> >>
> >
> > I might have missed something, but if you have two NICs in a box on
> > different subnets, can't you enable access between subnets simply by
> > switching on IP forwarding?
> >
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> Message: 8
> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 09:04:46 -0500
> From: bill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] network architecture question
> To: [email protected]
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> bill wrote:
> > I guess that is what I am asking.  Essentially I would like the desktops
> > connected to the gateway side of the server to be able to access the pxe
> > boot on the client side.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> > Antony Gelberg wrote:
> >
> >> bill wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Currently have a two nic setup using ubuntu and LTSP5.  My thin clients
> >>> are on the server side (192.168.0.1) and the rest of my computers are on
>
> >>> the gateway side (192.168.1.1).  My question is if I wanted to run a
> >>> virtual machine thin client (vmware) on one of my desktops is there any
> >>> way to cross connect those networks so I can get to the server side from
>
> >>> the gateway side?  I tried connecting an ethernet cable between the two
> >>> switches but it seemed to stun the network with a bunch of traffic.  Is
> >>> there any way to do this?  I have looked around a bit but don't know the
>
> >>> words for what I am trying to do. Do I need managed switches?
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >> I might have missed something, but if you have two NICs in a box on
> >> different subnets, can't you enable access between subnets simply by
> >> switching on IP forwarding?
> >>
>
> bill wrote:
> > I guess that is what I am asking.  Essentially I would like the desktops
> > connected to the gateway side of the server to be able to access the pxe
> > boot on the client side.
> >
> > Bill
> >
> ------ Clarification:  my thin clients do access the internet through
> the server.  I am trying to go the other direction and allow my desktops
> to pxe boot without physically placing them in the client side traffic
> all the time.  I think a bridge may do it...this is probably not the
> right forum, I just figured people had done it with their setups...or I
> am trying to do something nonsensical.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Wed, 14 Mar 2007 11:48:59 -0400
> From: John Lucas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: [Ltsp-discuss] network architecture question
> To: [email protected]
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;  charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> On Wednesday 14 March 2007 09:57, bill wrote:
> > I guess that is what I am asking.  Essentially I would like the desktops
> > connected to the gateway side of the server to be able to access the pxe
> > boot on the client side.
> >
> > Bill
> >
>
> That shouldn't be a problem, but one thing you may need is a DHCP server on
> your "gateway" side that can tell the virtual terminal where to boot from
> and
> where to mount it's home directory (and where to connect to X).
>
> First make sure that the tftp service and NFS will allow addresses on both
> nets (/etc/hosts.allow for portmap and tftpd and /etc/exports for NFS). Then
>
> configure the DHCP server (on the gateway side) to send boot and root info
> to
> the virtual terminal. This assumes the virtual terminal is on the "bridged"
> interface in VMWare. If you don't have control of that DHCP server, it might
>
> be possible to put your virtual terminal on the "NAT" interface and use
> VMWare's dhcp server to feed this info to the virtual terminal.
>
> > Antony Gelberg wrote:
> > > bill wrote:
> > >> Currently have a two nic setup using ubuntu and LTSP5.  My thin clients
> > >> are on the server side (192.168.0.1) and the rest of my computers are
> on
> > >> the gateway side (192.168.1.1).  My question is if I wanted to run a
> > >> virtual machine thin client (vmware) on one of my desktops is there any
> > >> way to cross connect those networks so I can get to the server side
> from
> > >> the gateway side?  I tried connecting an ethernet cable between the two
> > >> switches but it seemed to stun the network with a bunch of traffic.  Is
> > >> there any way to do this?  I have looked around a bit but don't know
> the
> > >> words for what I am trying to do. Do I need managed switches?
> > >
> > > I might have missed something, but if you have two NICs in a box on
> > > different subnets, can't you enable access between subnets simply by
> > > switching on IP forwarding?
> > >
> > >
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