Mh, XRANDR_OUTPUT_0 = "DVI-0 --auto" gives also no signal. As well as
xrandr -s "resolution". Doesn't look like related to ltsp. Either some
driver or xrandr problem. This is the problem of kicking out xorg.conf
etc. Automatic configuration is wonderful if it works and crappy if
you have a problem.

/var/log/Xorg.7.log says and looks normal to me. Unfortunately I
cannot search for the problem, because I immediately loose my XServer.

(II) RADEON(0): Monitor name: P24W-5 ECO
(II) RADEON(0): Serial No: YE7H505533
(II) RADEON(0): Number of EDID sections to follow: 1
(II) RADEON(0): EDID (in hex):
(II) RADEON(0):         00ffffffffffff001ab3a80601010101
(II) RADEON(0):         0d130103803420782aee95a3544c9926
(II) RADEON(0):         0f5054a54b00d1c081c0b300a9409500
(II) RADEON(0):         950f81008180283c80a070b023403020
(II) RADEON(0):         360006442100001a000000fd00174c1a
(II) RADEON(0):         4c11000a202020202020000000fc0050
(II) RADEON(0):         3234572d352045434f0a2020000000ff
(II) RADEON(0):         00594537483530353533330a202001a1
(II) RADEON(0):         0203110b4c909f85948493839201a2a1
(II) RADEON(0):         a0023a80d072382d40102c9680064421
(II) RADEON(0):         000018011d8018711c1620582c250006
(II) RADEON(0):         442100009e011d80d0721c1620102c25
(II) RADEON(0):         8006442100009e011d00bc52d01e20b8
(II) RADEON(0):         28554006442100001e8c0ad090204031
(II) RADEON(0):         200c4055000644210000188c0ad08a20
(II) RADEON(0):         e02d10103e96000644210000180000e5
(II) RADEON(0): EDID vendor "FUS", prod id 1704
(II) RADEON(0): Output: LVDS, Detected Monitor Type: 0
(II) RADEON(0): Query for AtomBIOS Get Panel EDID: failed
(II) RADEON(0): Added native panel mode: 640x480
(II) RADEON(0): EDID vendor "FUS", prod id 1704
(II) RADEON(0): Using hsync ranges from config file
(II) RADEON(0): Using vrefresh ranges from config file
(II) RADEON(0): Printing DDC gathered Modelines:
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1920x1200"x0.0  154.00  1920 1968 2000 2080
1200 1203 1209 1235 +hsync -vsync (74.0 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0   40.00  800 840 968 1056  600
601 605 628 +hsync +vsync (37.9 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0   31.50  640 656 720 840  480
481 484 500 -hsync -vsync (37.5 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "640x480"x0.0   25.18  640 656 752 800  480
490 492 525 -hsync -vsync (31.5 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "720x400"x0.0   28.32  720 738 846 900  400
412 414 449 -hsync +vsync (31.5 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0  135.00  1280 1296 1440 1688
1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (80.0 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0   78.75  1024 1040 1136 1312
768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync (60.0 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1024x768"x0.0   65.00  1024 1048 1184 1344
768 771 777 806 -hsync -vsync (48.4 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "800x600"x0.0   49.50  800 816 896 1056  600
601 604 625 +hsync +vsync (46.9 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1920x1080"x60.0  172.80  1920 2040 2248 2576
 1080 1081 1084 1118 -hsync +vsync (67.1 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1280x720"x60.0   74.48  1280 1336 1472 1664
720 721 724 746 -hsync +vsync (44.8 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1680x1050"x0.0  119.00  1680 1728 1760 1840
1050 1053 1059 1080 +hsync -vsync (64.7 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1600x1200"x0.0  162.00  1600 1664 1856 2160
1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync (75.0 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1440x900"x0.0   88.75  1440 1488 1520 1600
900 903 909 926 +hsync -vsync (55.5 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1440x900"x0.0  136.75  1440 1536 1688 1936
900 903 909 942 -hsync +vsync (70.6 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1280x800"x0.0   71.00  1280 1328 1360 1440
800 803 809 823 +hsync -vsync (49.3 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1280x1024"x0.0  108.00  1280 1328 1440 1688
1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync (64.0 kHz)
(II) RADEON(0): Output: DVI-0, Detected Monitor Type: 3
(II) RADEON(0): EDID data from the display on output: DVI-0
----------------------
(II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer: FUS  Model: 6a8  Serial#: 16843009
(II) RADEON(0): Year: 2009  Week: 13
(II) RADEON(0): EDID Version: 1.3
(II) RADEON(0): Digital Display Input
(II) RADEON(0): Max Image Size [cm]: horiz.: 52  vert.: 32
(II) RADEON(0): Gamma: 2.20
(II) RADEON(0): DPMS capabilities: Off
(II) RADEON(0): Supported color encodings: RGB 4:4:4 YCrCb 4:4:4
(II) RADEON(0): First detailed timing is preferred mode
(II) RADEON(0): redX: 0.640 redY: 0.330   greenX: 0.300 greenY: 0.600
(II) RADEON(0): blueX: 0.150 blueY: 0.060   whiteX: 0.313 whiteY: 0.329
(II) RADEON(0): Supported VESA Video Modes:
(II) RADEON(0): 720x...@70hz
(II) RADEON(0): 640x...@60hz
(II) RADEON(0): 640x...@75hz
(II) RADEON(0): 800x...@60hz
(II) RADEON(0): 800x...@75hz
(II) RADEON(0): 1024x...@60hz
(II) RADEON(0): 1024x...@75hz
(II) RADEON(0): 1280x1...@75hz
(II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0
(II) RADEON(0): Supported Future Video Modes:
(II) RADEON(0): #0: hsize: 1920  vsize 1080  refresh: 60  vid: 49361
(II) RADEON(0): #1: hsize: 1280  vsize 720  refresh: 60  vid: 49281
(II) RADEON(0): #2: hsize: 1680  vsize 1050  refresh: 60  vid: 179
(II) RADEON(0): #3: hsize: 1600  vsize 1200  refresh: 60  vid: 16553
(II) RADEON(0): #4: hsize: 1440  vsize 900  refresh: 60  vid: 149
(II) RADEON(0): #5: hsize: 1440  vsize 900  refresh: 75  vid: 3989
(II) RADEON(0): #6: hsize: 1280  vsize 800  refresh: 60  vid: 129
(II) RADEON(0): #7: hsize: 1280  vsize 1024  refresh: 60  vid: 32897
(II) RADEON(0): Supported additional Video Mode:
(II) RADEON(0): clock: 154.0 MHz   Image Size:  518 x 324 mm
(II) RADEON(0): h_active: 1920  h_sync: 1968  h_sync_end 2000
h_blank_end 2080 h_border: 0
(II) RADEON(0): v_active: 1200  v_sync: 1203  v_sync_end 1209
v_blanking: 1235 v_border: 0
(II) RADEON(0): Ranges: V min: 23 V max: 76 Hz, H min: 26 H max: 76
kHz, PixClock max 170 MHz


2009/8/13 Gideon Romm <l...@symbio-technologies.com>:
> Peter-
>
> The "going to sleep" message sound like it is coming from the monitor -
> not the driver.  In other words, the driver is being put into a mode
> that the monitor does not support.
>
> Instead of setting the mode, delete the XRANDR_MODE_0 line and change
> the output line to:
>
> XRANDR_OUTPUT_0 = "DVI-0 --auto"
>
> and see if that cures things.
>
> -Gadi
>
> On Thu, 2009-08-13 at 14:42 +0200, Peter Stein wrote:
>> xrandr gives:
>>
>> $xrandr
>> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1920 x 1200, maximum 1920 x 1600
>> LVDS connected 640x480+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 
>> 0mm
>>    640x480        60.0*+   59.9
>> DVI-0 connected 1920x1200+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y
>> axis) 518mm x 324mm
>>    1920x1200      60.0*+
>>    1600x1200      60.0
>>    1680x1050      59.9
>>    1280x1024      75.0     60.0
>>    1440x900       75.0     59.9
>>    1280x800       59.9
>>    1280x720       60.0
>>    1024x768       75.0     60.0
>>    800x600        75.0     60.3
>>    640x480        75.0     59.9
>>    720x400        70.1
>>
>> So it is LVDS - This is a "laptop display", isn't it? Well, your
>> settings were kind of successful.
>>
>>         XRANDR_DISABLE  = False
>>         XRANDR_OUTPUT_0 = "DVI-0"
>>         XRANDR_OUTPUT_1 = "LVDS --off"
>>
>> Disables the LVDS. Just what I wanted. But if I add
>>
>>         XRANDR_MODE_0 = 1920x1200
>>
>> for my terminal the display shows: "No signal, going to sleep." Looks
>> like some xrandr stuff that doesn't work. No idea yet, what it could
>> be. Without XRANDR_MODE_0 = 1920x1200 ldm starts with 640x480.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>> Peter
>>
>>
>> 2009/8/12 Gideon Romm <l...@symbio-technologies.com>:
>> > Peter-
>> >
>> > Do this:
>> >
>> > 1. Log in from the thin client, open a terminal window, and type: xrandr
>> > 2. Take a look at the names of the outputs (ie.  "VGA", "TMDS-1", "TV",
>> > etc)
>> > 3. Then, figure out which of the outputs is the one that is producing
>> > the 640x480, and we will turn it off.  Here's how:
>> >
>> > Let's say, "VGA" is the one we want on, and "TV" is the one we want off.
>> > You should be able to have in lts.conf:
>> >
>> > XRANDR_DISABLE = False
>> > XRANDR_OUTPUT_0 = "VGA"
>> > XRANDR_OUTPUT_1 = "TV --off"
>> >
>> > That *should* disable the unwanted output.  If you want to force a
>> > resolution on the active output, you can add:
>> >
>> > XRANDR_MODE_0 = 1920x1200
>> >
>> > Some drivers will activate outputs through xrandr incorrectly.  These
>> > steps should hopefully rectify it.
>> >
>> > -Gadi
>> >
>> > On Wed, 2009-08-12 at 15:19 +0200, Peter Stein wrote:
>> >> Sometimes those machines are just mysterious. Well, LDM_DIRECTX really
>> >> reduces ssh's CPU usage to zero. But still Maple was unusable. I
>> >> checked the gnome display settings and found a second display that was
>> >> activated with 640x480 that was right in the "real display". How come?
>> >> No idea.
>> >> Here's my lts.conf:
>> >>
>> >> [default]
>> >>         LDM_DIRECTX = True
>> >>         NETWORK_COMPRESSION = False
>> >>         XRANDR_DISABLE  = "True"
>> >>         CONFIGURE_X     = "True"
>> >>         USE_XFS         = "True"
>> >>         XFS_SERVER      = "10.153.106.228"
>> >>         SYSLOG_HOST     = "10.153.106.236"
>> >> [S500-6]
>> >>         X_MODE_0        = "1920x1200"
>> >>
>> >> If xrandr is not disabled ldm comes up with 640x480.
>> >> I deactivated the second display manually in display settings and CPU
>> >> usage of xorg was reduced massively. Now Maple is at least usable,
>> >> still lagging a bit, but much better. How can I disable the second
>> >> display for all users or better get rid of it? Does xrandr work for
>> >> you with the correct screen resolution?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Peter
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> 2009/8/12 Frank Bergmann <frankswerb...@gmx.de>:
>> >> > Java should work quicker via NX-Connection.
>> >> > So you could install the freenx Server on your sever and a fat client
>> >> > that boots a small desktop und autostarts  the nomachine client.
>> >> > Maybe you should test this first: Boot a client from cd, install
>> >> > nomachine client and see how it goes.
>> >> > Frank
>> >> >
>> >> > 2009/8/12 Peter Stein <peterstei...@googlemail.com>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Compiz is disabled. LDM_DIRECTX didn't help. Video drivers are ok, I
>> >> >> use the free radeon drivers, they are well tested.
>> >> >> How should I install such software as Maple, Mathematica locally ...
>> >> >> This software needs some kind of computer power. The programs are
>> >> >> huge. That's why we have our workstations and not a thin client.
>> >> >> Unfortunately this doesn't look like a good plan. So what is left?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> 2009/8/11 Gideon Romm <l...@symbio-technologies.com>:
>> >> >> > Peter,
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > You have several options available:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 1. LDM_DIRECTX  (set to True in lts.conf, video will not be tunneled
>> >> >> > through ssh and go back to the client directly)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 2. LOCAL_APPS - install java and java programs in the chroot and run
>> >> >> > them as local apps rather than from the server - do the same with ff 
>> >> >> > and
>> >> >> > plugins
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 3. See if you have the optimal video drivers for the thin client
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > 4. Disable compiz if it is running on the server
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > These are off the top of my head.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > -Gadi
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Tue, 2009-08-11 at 18:34 +0200, Peter Stein wrote:
>> >> >> >> Dear LTSP users,
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> when it comes to convince somebody of LTSP the usability and feeling
>> >> >> >> is crucial. After setting the chroot up we started testing. And here
>> >> >> >> the real problems begin. Our users are scientists, they work for 
>> >> >> >> hours
>> >> >> >> in front of their monitor and they are *sorry* pissed if the 
>> >> >> >> computer
>> >> >> >> is somewhat sluggish or unusable.
>> >> >> >> We have enormous problems using Java programs like xmaple and 
>> >> >> >> others.
>> >> >> >> Some are usable, some not. I am aware of the bug here
>> >> >> >> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ia32-libs/+bug/277069 and
>> >> >> >> installed the libxcb package of Ubuntu karmic which improved the 
>> >> >> >> speed
>> >> >> >> a lot. But still it sucks to work with thin clients somehow.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> - moving windows is sometimes decelerated
>> >> >> >> - firefox dropdown menus still open slowly sometimes (not in 
>> >> >> >> konqueror)
>> >> >> >> - input in some java programs like xmaple lags - the program is not 
>> >> >> >> usable
>> >> >> >> - videos are not shown with enough fps
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I have analyzed the traffic a little bit. If you move a window like
>> >> >> >> gnome-terminal traffic jumps to 5-6 MB/s sometimes. CPU of xorg goes
>> >> >> >> up to 45%, ssh uses 20%. If one uses xmaple or other Java programs
>> >> >> >> load goes up to 1.15 which is too much for a single core terminal,
>> >> >> >> traffic jumps to 14-15 MB. This is more than maximum for a 100 
>> >> >> >> MBit/s
>> >> >> >> connection, which is still kind of standard (but tested with 
>> >> >> >> GBit/s).
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> We use:
>> >> >> >> Ubuntu Jaunty for servers and chroot
>> >> >> >> terminals have sempron 2100+ (that's not really slow for a terminal)
>> >> >> >> ATI X1200 with free radeon driver
>> >> >> >> the server I used for testing has more than enough power: 8 cores 
>> >> >> >> and 16GB RAM
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I also tried hpn-ssh http://www.psc.edu/networking/projects/hpn-ssh/
>> >> >> >> with no sufficient result.
>> >> >> >> So the problem is:
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> In many cases (like moving a window etc.) xorg and ssh use too much
>> >> >> >> cpu. We changed ssh encryption to blowfish which helped only a 
>> >> >> >> little.
>> >> >> >> What can I do to improve this situation. I ran out of ideas. One
>> >> >> >> important program which doesn't work, is enough to make this project
>> >> >> >> rubbish. All my work was for nothing and that would be very
>> >> >> >> disappointing.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Thank you very much.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Peter
>> >> >> >>
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