Sun builds good boxes from what I have heard and seen. In the state we run
LotusNotes on Sun boxes. Nice and Solid, which is where the high price tag
comes in.

Apple of course builds beautiful and easy to fix servers, those G5's are
really nice too.

Personally I don't like Dell, too many horror stories from the field.
However some swear by PowerEdge Servers.

HP servers are basically repackaged Compaq servers and are still well
built. However, the support has become really bad since the merger. Getting
a good tech on the phone is a gamble. You'll eventually get a good tech
that will help fix the problem. Its too bad, I've purchased many great
servers and had excellent tech support before the merger from Compaq.

Personally I'd go with either IBM, Sun or Apple. I feel those are names I
can depend on.

Good luck.

Michael






"Lucas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@videl.ics.hawaii.edu on 01/14/2004 10:01:42
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Any hardware recommendation guys?

We are currently looking at the following list of dual-cpu rack mounts:
   Sun Fire V280R   $ 14,995 x 60% (Higher Ed discount) = $8,997.00
     (2 x 1.2 GHz UltraSPARC III, 2.0 GB RAM, 2 x 73 GB 10000 RPM SCSI
      drives, 10/100 Ethernet, Solaris 8 or 9)

   Apple XServe G5                                        $4,799.00 (list)
     (2 x 2.0 GHz PowerPC G5, 2.0 GB RAM, 2 x 80 GB 7200 RPM ATA
      drives, 2 x 10/100/1000 Ethernet, Max OS X)

   Dell PE 1750                                           $4,624.00 (list)
     (2 x 3.2 GHz Intel Xeon, 2.0 GB RAM, 2 x 73.0 GB 10000 RPM SCSI
      drives, 2 x 10/100/1000 Ethernet, no OS)

   HP ProLiant DL140                                      $4,745.00 (list)
     (2 x 3.2 GHz Intel Xeon, 2.0 GB RAM, 2 x 80 GB 7200 RPM ATA
      drives, 2 x 10/100/1000 Ethernet, no OS)

   HP ProLiant DL360 G3                                   $6,706.00 (list)
     (2 x 3.2 GHz Intel Xeon, 2.0 GB RAM, 2 x 72.8 GB 10000 RPM SCSI
      hot-pluggable drives, 2 x 10/100/1000 Ethernet, no OS)

Or do you guys have other experience with other great machines?

Thanks.

Lucas

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Warren
> Togami
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 9:12 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [luau] migration
>
> Lucas Halim wrote:
>  >>From the beginning of our apps development, we tried not to use too
> much vendor specific feature so
>  > PL/SQL is not a biggie but it's definitely good to know.
>  >
>  > We are in the process of getting in new boxes and will try out Fedora
>  >
>  > Thanks guys for the responses. Just keep it coming.
>  >
>  > Lucas
>  >
>
> postgresql is indeed nice, but please read the following about Fedora.
>
> I am a Fedora developer and personally use it myself on all of my
> servers (and desktops, and thin clients... etc.), I wouldn't recommend
> it for something that needs to remain at the same version for several
> years, like you probably want for an important database server.
>
> While the software in each Fedora distribution is generally very stable,
> each Fedora distribution is only supported for maybe 7-9 months after
> release.  There is the chance that the Fedora Legacy Project [1] may
> continue security updates beyond the company's EOL, but the project
> needs more community developers to make that a reality.  For these
> reasons, Fedora it is only really suitable for servers if you know Linux
> well and you don't mind upgrading the servers once or twice per year.
> For example if you have extra hardware you can do validation testing of
> the newer distribution and deploy it before the old Fedora goes EOL.
>
> Long story short... Fedora is not a great long term server solution.
> You may want to look at the alternatives like Debian, SuSE or RHEL.
>
> http://www.redhat.com/solutions/industries/education/
> Be warned that I am totally biased in recommending this, but Red Hat
> Enterprise Linux for academic institutions seems to be very reasonably
> priced and may suit your needs well.  Red Hat is supposed to maintain
> security updates for each version of RHEL for something like 5 years,
> meaning you have plenty of time before EOL.  The pages above says $50/yr
> for academic institutions, which appears a bit smaller than $1499/yr for
> RHEL AS.  Something like every 1.5 years they plan on releasing a new
> version of RHEL, and the subscription allows you to download and upgrade
> to the latest version at no additional cost.
>
> [1]
> http://www.fedoralegacy.org
>
> Warren Togami
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