I think this is something worth discussing in our own community before we decide to post something.
My thought is we need a general management to resolve issues and provide resources so the community can do their work (this is why we have this group). General management never sets the direction (read: vision) for the team. Usually there's an executive level of management that is not focused on expediting and facilitation that can work on this. Some might call this bureaucracy, but if it includes input from the team and community seriously (in other words, it seriously considers everything and publishes logical public responses to all issues), then it works. I perceive the issue to be that people are concerned that Canonical does not perform their executive role in an open manner. Yet I've never heard anyone really push the point that they don't want to work with the cloud, or the phone, or Unity. There's rumbling, but where are the petitions or protests? If we demand change and Canonical does refuse to listen, it's time to fork Ubuntu. Personally, I see Canonical's moves as sensible given they are a for profit company. I've also seen them support moves that aren't going to get them a profit (us!). They have relied largely on the community to create the vision for these non-profit products, but the current vision isn't really a problem. If we keep doing the work, that's a good thing. The other issue may be we need different council members. There's a solution: get your membership and exercise your voting rights. In light of that, I'm not sure this discussion is anything more than academic. @wxl Lubuntu Release Manager, Head of QA Ubuntu PPC Point of Contact Ubuntu Oregon Team Leader On Nov 14, 2014 5:33 PM, "Phill Whiteside" <phi...@phillw.net> wrote: > Possibly off-topic, > > but, boy oh boy, has Jono thrown a hand grenade in. He's waited long > enough to voice his frustrations that I think caused him to leave ubuntu.. > > http://www.jonobacon.org/2014/11/14/ubuntu-governance-reboot/ > > One thing about Jono is that he is extremely eloquent. As TL's please do > engage in the discussion that has been started. > > Regards, > > Phill. > > -- > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/phillw > > -- > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-admins > Post to : lubuntu-admins@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-admins > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >
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