I agree that xubuntu is not lightweight and app selection is key to this, especially for those that will always execute. I think something like connman or wics would be a better choice than network manager for Lubuntu. The gnome power management stuff I recall is already undergoing a radical size reduction, so that issue may solve itself.
jon york wrote: > Hi guys, completely agree with all of this, but first i think is to > determine what we want our market to be. Do we want to be out of the > box, forget about needed to install something to make it "usable" (ie: > flash, codecs) or do we want to be a bare minimum speedy OS. either way, > i like both ideas, but we do need to determine what we wish to be and go > for it. Il admit, i am ignorant of the rules or objectives we need to > meet to be a ubuntu derivative, and we must adhere to that, But Mr. Ed > Hewitt brings up some very valid points, > > I have been selling linux based computers for years now, and I have a > good idea of what people want either way. > > Jon York > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > From: wiebelh...@gmail.com > Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 12:49:44 -0500 > To: lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Subject: Re: [Lubuntu-desktop] Lubuntu could end up like Xubuntu (Heavy > & Slow) > > Ed Hewitt makes some very good points , Something to look at would be > the Fluxbuntu project the 7.10 Version was amazing because it was very > very slim nothing except the essentials installed but it also retained > the availability of all those other apps by using the official > repositories. I don't think anyone has to worry about something missing > because the people that would be drawn to Lubuntu would certinaly be > savvy enough to fetch it for themselves. > > What's good isn't always golden , I agree with the minilmist idea that > Ed Hewitt proposed here. > > Cheers!. > > Dallas Wiebelhaus. > > > > > > On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Ed Hewitt > <edwardahew...@googlemail.com <mailto:edwardahew...@googlemail.com>> wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm Ed Hewitt (chewit in IRC). I have just joined the Lubuntu team > in Launchpad, I am very keen to give you help with the Lubuntu > project. I have been using Xubuntu since 7.10 release, and over the > years Xubuntu has been getting heavier and slower after each > release. This has been down two things. First, the Ubuntu developers > adding more applications and utilies to improve the usability of the > operating system. Secondly, Xubuntu is just Ubuntu with Xfce 'bolted > on'. No thought has gone into using as little gnome depencies as > possible. These two points have made Xubuntu heavy and slow, and not > a lightweight distro. It is very close to being as heavy as Ubuntu! > > My worry with the Lubuntu project is that when it becomes an > official Ubuntu distro, it will have loads of extra apps added which > will make it slow and heavy like Xubuntu. It will be a waste your > time creating a distro which went the same way as Xubuntu. I am > writing this message to warn you that it could happen. I want to > join the Lubuntu and help decide the best applications to add to the > operating systems and ways to make it as light as possible. > > I have looked at the Lubuntu application list and I am already > concerned with the success of the project. It appears Lubuntu will > have more applications installed than the Ubuntu install! > > The best way I see Lubuntu being setup is to carefully follow the > way Debian is created, since Debain is very lightweight. I believe > it is best to use the Ubuntu minimal install with LXDE added on, > then we add a carefully selection of applications. Such as: > > * Web browser - Firefox > * Email - Claws > * Chat - Pidgin, Xchat > * Office - Abiword, Gnumeric, ePDF > * Media - Totem, Rhythmbox (would like to use VLC, but it uses QT4) > * GIMP > * Synaptic & Update Manager is a must > * Gnome network manager (need good network support, however it > needs to start on boot up) > * Some Xfce apps - Notifyd (very nice notification system), > taskmanager (but could use lxde task), power manager > > We want to keep the apps list small, basic apps which most people > will use. Video editing, ftp clients and programming apps are not > needed on the base install. If we add loads of apps, we will be a > heavy distro. With Lubuntu its performance and lightweight first, > sadly xubuntu forgot about that. > > Would like to hear what the whole team thinks and if I can be some > help in the development of Lubuntu. > > -- > www.edhewitt.co.uk <http://www.edhewitt.co.uk> > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > <https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop> > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > <mailto:lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net> > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > <https://launchpad.net/%7Elubuntu-desktop> > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
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