Julien Lavergne wrote: > Hi, > > For Mplayer / SMplayer, as there is no consensus for switching to > something else, let's stay with this 2 for Karmic. I'll put them in > Recommends, so lubuntu-desktop can be installed without this 2. I'll try > to move Mplayer to universe, but I'm not sure it'll be doable. Let's > discuss the video player choice after the Karmic release.
Agreed! > For the release date, there is 2 choices : > - Stick with Ubuntu schedule and release/freeze at the same time. This > could be a solution if we want to release the finished Lubuntu in time > for Karmic+1. > - Don't follow this schedule and release after. We can do this, but the > consequence will be to have separate packages for some components, not > in sync with Ubuntu official packages and repository. A possibility is > to use the Lubuntu PPA as an extra repository and publish packages when > it's done. But we need to deal with maintenance, bug reports etc ... > As a MOTU, I prefer the solution 1, let's publish a preview for Karmic > and the "real" Lubuntu for Karmic+1. I prefer #1 also by far... > For custom installer, I don't like this idea. Because someone need to > code it, and people can have the same by installing the applications > they want after the installation of Lubuntu. Most of People using Ubuntu > and derivate want to have an installation ready "out-of-the-box", they > don't want to choose between VLC and Mplayer for example. > If we want to allow the user to customize his installation and keeping > the core LXDE in place, it's possible to make all "extra" packages > (Mplayer, Aqualung etc ...) optional, by making them recommends on the > lubuntu-desktop package. People will be able to remove Mplayer to > install VLC, and will keep the lubuntu-desktop and so LXDE core packages > installed. We can review moving more things into recommends for this purpose for Karmic +1. > > Regards, > Julien Lavergne > > Le samedi 19 septembre 2009 à 12:41 +0800, Mario Behling a écrit : >> Dear all, >> >> I would like to exchange with you some thoughts that came up in an >> exchange with PCMan concerning using Mplayer, Qt4 and the release date >> of lubuntu. >> >> I agree with PCMan that we should get feedback from the community >> first before releasing a stable lubuntu. The current lubuntu is >> already quite good, but there will probably be some bugs that we dont >> know, besides bugs that we know of e.g. in PCManFM. As PCMan is >> working on a new version of the file manger, I hope we will be able to >> include it. >> >> Read on below. >> >> - Mario >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: PCMan >> >> Hi all >> Clearly Mplayer has the best performance on old machines which are the >> target of Lubuntu. >> However, the usability of currently available mplayer GUI frontend are >> quite problematic. >> SMplayer, although being developed with Qt4, undoubtedly has quite >> good usability compared with others. Qt4 is not a problem. It's >> bigger, but it's not very big. Besides, there will be more and more >> applications written in Qt4 in the future. Denying the use of Qt4 is >> quite unwise, IMHO. If you can find something that are as good, feel >> free to replace it. But the problem is, there isn't. The other usable >> player should be VLC, which is also written in Qt4, too. Xine is yet >> another solution, but it doesn't have good performance, and the >> usability is not good, either. So it's good for nothing. Rather than >> including something that is good for nothing, I'd rather include >> something that at least give you good usability. This is the >> rationale. >> >> Another concern is, can we postpone the release of Lubuntu? Rather >> than releasing something new but broken, I'd rather release it when >> it's really ready. Give the users something that is half-done is not a >> good way for marketing. >> I'm confident that Lubuntu will be ready for everyday use at the time >> of next Ubuntu LTS release. However, if we want to make it for 9.10, >> we might end up with a broken distro that is problematic. IMHO, >> keeping it in Alpha or Beta status is more preferable. Then just use >> 9.10 release to get enough feedback from the users. Things should be >> ready in Q1, 2010. Then the next LTS will be the right time for first >> official release of Lubuntu. >> >> For application selection, I'd suggest creating a modular installer >> and let the user choose what they want. This doesn't need to be >> included in the Ubuntu installer. We can run a app selection wizard at >> first-time startup. This can be the perfect solution for application >> selection. >> >> Any thoughts? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop >> Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
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