I'm in #ubuntu quite a lot (remember to say yo yo yo to your friendly
parsnip :D) and I do enforce the rules but am not an op. If people
tell others to obey the rules / use !ops if they are not compliant
then it helps keep things smoother.

On Friday, June 4, 2010, Goh Lip <g....@gmx.com> wrote:
> On 06/04/2010 09:19 AM, Phillip Whiteside wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I've just had a chat with one of those 'very nice people' over on ubuntu
> about something I saw happen on #ubuntu-beginners the other day, that
> being a an idiot in the room breaking all the rules for politeness on
> IRC and also using swear words. On that occasion there were 'OP's in the
> room and also available who kicked him off (He actually got K-lined from
> freenode for those who know the difference).
>
> Currently /msg chanserv access #lubuntu list will show you the access
> list. hyperair and elfgoh are both OPs there
>
> Whilst I hope that #lubuntu will not get that sort of abuse, could the
> team think along the lines of how #ubuntu-beginners runs and grant OP
> status to a few of those who are regulars so that they would be able to
> act if a 'saddo' / 'troll' etc comes by?
>
> Regards,
>
> Phill.
>
>
> Perhaps we can ask newcomers to read
> http://www.ubuntu.com/support/community/mailinglists
> http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct
> and adhere to it.
>
> It would also be good if there is one or two moderators on this list who 
> would remind anyone who breaks the rules and have the power to suspend him 
> from the list, if necessary.
>
> The ubuntu-users mailing list tends to be abusive too and there are people 
> who gives advice badly. There is certainly room for improvement and I hope 
> this lubuntu list can remain civil, polite and helpful.
>
> The kubuntu-users list is quite friendly, helpful and cheerful. Sometimes 
> there are 'stragglers' from the ubuntu list but when they misbehave, they are 
> usually shooed away by the kubuntu users themselves.
>
> Of course the quality of any list depends ultimately on the users themselves 
> but there must be a mechanism to prevent spam, flaming and trolling.
>
> This is usually not in the code of conduct, but since this is an 
> international mailing list, I'd recommend that any signature of a political, 
> religious or anti-religious sentiment be removed.
>
> Admittedly, it is not easy to handle the multi faceted mix of users. For 
> example, some, when rebuked about their offensive or profane statements, may 
> claim 'cultural licence' - I am from New York, people are not so thin-skinned 
> - or a guy who starts his posts with a long winded capital-lettered tribute 
> to god. I would not envy the moderator.
>
> Regards - Goh Lip
>
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