Yorvyk - I stand corrected on Grub 2 being in Alpha - I hadn't realised it came out of beta. Goh - I wasn't criticising Grub 2 since I have had no problems with it myself. I have heard others have and particularly with external drives as you mentioned. Since an awful lot of people are going to "give Linux a try" on an external drive it is not too good that it will most likely fail.
I do remember LILO - never did get it to work reliably myself. My first try at Linux wasn't successful because of it as I recall and I had to use Windows at the time because of a course I was taking. As a result I didn't properly adopt Linux until about 3 years ago. Now you wont get me away from it - except at work where I have no choice cos everything is flaming Microsoft! When I get my own company running it will all be Linux and no Windows in sight thankyou! Rich On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 16:25:12 +0800 Goh Lip <g....@gmx.com> wrote: > On Mon, 28 Jun 2010 08:42:50 +0100 > Richard Austin <richaustin1...@aol.com> wrote: > > > As Goh Lip said in one of his posts on this subject: Alpha versions > > are not for newbies. Exactly why Canonical are shipping Grub 2 when > > they know it isn't a full release I don't personally know. They have > > their reasons i guess. I haven't had any issues myself with Grub but > > then I'm not a newbie. I would be hesitant, however, to point a > > newbie at a system where there is a chance it will break. They sure > > as hell wont come back to *nix if it does. > > I think that since there are issues with Grub it would be a good idea > > to move away from it and use something which doesn't have issues. > > Moaning at the LUbuntu team does no-one any good, and it really > > annoys me when people complain about non-production versions of > > software "breaking" - they haven't broken they have bugs which is why > > they're in Alpha / Beta releases! If you can't fix it you shouldn't > > have been using it - simple huh? > > > > Rich > > Richard, some of the reasoning to use grub2 can be found at > https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 > > Personally, and on top of these reasons, my take on it is.... > o grub-legacy has not been maintained for a long time (5 years?) > note others try to fill the void by super grub, etc. > o the rescue mode to help boot when parameters are wrong > o the setting to (grub) boot by uuid instead of (hd0,x) and /dev/sdax > where it will always be wrong with multiple disks > o When booting from external disk, the partition will always be (hd0,1) > regardless of actual allocation and grub-legacy will fail > o modular construct where new innovations/additions need not require > the whole grub system be rebuilt > o ability to boot iso direct by looping, (useful to test alpha's > without installing to hard disk) and other utility disks. > o ability to handle raid and lvm, despite initial problems, > (grub-legacy and definitely lilo could not.) > > Richard, even at the introduction of grub2, it is far far superior to > grub-legacy, and the only fault is the lack of documentation to assist > users. Also many people are already familiar with grub-legacy and the > ease to modify menu.lst makes using grub2 a harder task. It is always > easier to learn a new task than to unlearn an old one. > > Since you mentioned you are not a newbie, can you remember using > LILO? ;) [roaring laughter] LOL > > Take care. Regards - Goh Lip > -- > I can't understand why people are frightened of new ideas. > I'm frightened of the old ones. > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp -- Richard Austin <richaustin1...@aol.com> _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp