-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I do understand what you mean, actually most of the gtk3 porting work has been made. Actually only those packages doesn't build with gtk3:
gpicview libfm pcmanfm lxmusic lxpanel everything else builds and seems to work fine. i wonder if lxappearance could be set up in a way that "if built with gtk2, i edit gtk2 configs, if built with gtk3 i edit gtk3 configs" that way, we don't need to make 2 versions. Il 14/08/2011 13:52, PCMan ha scritto: > I'm not sure what Lubuntu devs will do on this issue, but from the LXDE > side, there is no plan for the migration at this moment. For now, migration > to gtk3 brings much more problems and bugs with no visible benefit. XFCE > also keeps using gtk2 in the near future. > The Chromium browser, is going to use gtk2 for quite a long time, too. They > needs to support some older commercial systems on which gtk3 is not > available. For current applications used in LXDE, migration to gtk3 brings > no benefit but the work needs to be done is very huge. > > The problems we will have after the migration: > 1. PCManFM: desptop icons will be broken and this part needs some sort of > rewrite for gtk3. In addition, some theming stuff uses gtk2 only features. > 2. LibFM: this part still uses much GTK2 APIs. Though I already started the > preperation for migration, this won't happen recently. As gtk3 now changed > its user input handling and the change is not backward compatible, I'm not > sure what bugs this will bring. > 3. The XSettings daemon inside LXSession doesn't seem to be working for both > gtk2 and gtk3 at the same time. > 4. LXAppearance cannot configure gtk2/gtk3 at the same time. Technically > it's not possible to make it work for both of them at the same time. > 5. LXPanel is completely broken under gtk3. The work needs to fix the panel > and port it to gtk3 is even more than developing a new panel. Hence, I plan > to develop a new one based on gtk3 from scratch later. I will use libwnck at > that time to avoid some low level X11 hacks. Some new widgets provided in > gtk3 are useful for the new desktop panel. This could decrease much > maintaince load and many unresolved bugs. I'll also do some UI redesign > then. For now, migration to gtk3 for this one is 100% impossible and nobody > is going to do it. > 6. Migration of other components are possible, but since the major > components still need more love, spending the time for migration to gtk3 for > the least important components is pointless. > 7. GTK+ 2 and gtk+ 3 modules are incompatible. So I'm not sure what will > hapen to IM module (input method) after the migration. We will need two > different IM modules. One for gtk2, and the other one is for gtk 3. > Otherwise we cannot type non-English characters. > 8. GTK2 and 3 programs can coexist, but this requires two librraries to be > installed on the disk and loaded at runtime. Having a desktop environment > composed by mixed gtk2/3 programs is a very bad idea since the resource > usage is doubled for no additional benefit. This is not acceptable for LXDE. > As most non-Gnome GTK+ based applications are not yet ported to gtk3, unless > we're going to depend on gnome components, migration to gtk3 now brings > harms only. > > To sum up, we're not going to do gtk3 migration in LXDE now. The reasonable > timing for the migration is when XFCE and other non-Gnome programs, > especially Chromium, which has many users, start the migration. > > Xubuntu will not use gtk3 this time, and it's really time for Lubuntu and > others to think about the issue. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > FREE DOWNLOAD - uberSVN with Social Coding for Subversion. > Subversion made easy with a complete admin console. Easy > to use, easy to manage, easy to install, easy to extend. > Get a Free download of the new open ALM Subversion platform now. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/wandisco-dev2dev > > > > _______________________________________________ > Lxde-list mailing list > lxde-l...@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/lxde-list - -- - ------------------------------------------ Andrea Florio QSI International School of Brindisi Sys Admin CISCO CCNA Certified openSUSE-Education Administrator openSUSE-LXDE Administrator openSUSE Official Member (anubisg1) Email: and...@opensuse.org Packman Packaging Team Email: and...@links2linux.de Cell: +39-328-7365667 - ------------------------------------------ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk5H9c0ACgkQyCZT87TFPujunQCfTrdk3Ky4dy7vQ9Ez5lgwLM0K ChgAoKDfGPq0eUsWBy0xB+jAPkQgP6v0 =OadZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop Post to : lubuntu-desktop@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-desktop More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp
