Hey, Henk... I think you made the news... http://www.webupd8.org/2014/09/recent-update-broke-ubuntu-desktop-on.html
On 09/08/2014 08:18 AM, Henk Terhell wrote: > Lubuntu 14.04 LTS currently works very well on my old laptop as well > as on my Acer Aspire T-180 386 desktop. > > That is quite a distinct experience compared to the trouble on this > Acer desktop with the 14.10 beta versions of both Lubuntu and Xubuntu. > I downloaded today the daily build of 7 september of Lubuntu 14.10 > (Utopic Unicorn). Tried to upgrade nvidia 304.123 driver (nouveau > driver will crash) and now there is no way to get a GUI. I'm only > arriving at the terminal and after login and command startx this ends > up in a blank screen. > > Henk > > Basil Fernie schreef op 8-9-2014 om 12:11: >> ...or, Lost MY GUI in 14.04! >> >> Been watching this one with a sort of morbid interest, because my laptop >> is sitting with a failed upgrade from 12.04.? Symptoms include a >> frequent >> failure to display desktop on boot apart from taskbar across bottom of >> screen and conky in top right-hand corner (at least the Xserver is >> presumably working), I can select and run any application from the main >> Lubuntu menu, so am not totally immobilised, but try "Send to gesktop"? >> Nothing visible happens. >> >> Also lack of the volume control applet icon on the taskbar so I have no >> convenient means of muting sound. Certainly the sound is working, but >> there is no control on the desktop. Task Manager advises pulseaudio >> at work, also reveals >> gvfs-afc-volume-monitor and gvfs-ufd-volume-monitor and >> gvfs-gphoto2-volume-monitor are active, whatever they may be I don't >> know how to control them or even if I should be able to. >> >> And I have 817 uninstalled upgrades waiting for ...what? That number >> has come down from over 830 after repeated apt-get update, apt-get >> upgrade, apt-get autoremove sequences; it has stuck now stubbornly on >> 817. Seems to be blocked by a purported lack af sane-devices (but I >> can scan without difficulty from my HP DeskJet F4180...) >> >> Every now and then a "System Upgrade" advisory window opens - if I >> click "Run" it frowns at me and says "This program cannot do an >> upgrade from "Trusty" to "Precise". Which is understandable, but I >> was rather hoping it wouls complete the upgrade from the older to the >> newer. >> >> Oh, and I have 2 instances of nmapplet-manager running after >> boot, but this is a know and resolved issue. >> >> All this in the wake of an attempted click-and-lean-back, >> watch-the-terminal-messages-scrolling-past automated upgrade from >> 12.04.04 to 14.04.1 (I had decided to wait for the first point update >> to be released, memories of Microsoft days, better safe than sorry >> right?) >> >> Earlier, though, while still purportedly runnining on 12.04.?, and >> religiously using "Update Manager" to stay, well, up-to-date, I >> wwould be instructed to insert my 14.04 CD (DVD) as some needed files >> were on it. So I did, the ISO DVD with which I had done live boots >> for version-testing, and concluded that I would wait for 14.04.1 >> before doing the system upgrade. Apparently UM couldn't penetrate the >> .iso barrier (directory structure) to find the files it needed... >> Which CD/DVD was it looking for, please advise? Surely this shouldn't >> be a problem? >> >> So while I would be delighted to help test L14.10, I'm not too >> sanguine about committing time to a version which it doesn't seem >> will be clear of the problems I already face, but will have the added >> problem, I hear, that synaptiks won't be usable with it. Synaptiks >> is the only reason I can type this e-mail on my laptop without going >> crazy. This could be show-stopper stuff. >> >> Currently I'm transferring workload bit-by-bit to a parallel >> installation of LXDE 14.04.1 which of course depends heavily on >> Lubuntu. It's not perfect, of course, but seems to be clear of most >> of the hassles encountered here - so far. >> >> Strength and fortitude and great appreciation to all, >> >> Basil Fernie >> >> >> >> >> >> On Sun, 07 Sep 2014 10:34:24 +0200, Henk Terhell <hterh...@chello.nl> >> wrote: >> >>> There are still several issues on both Lubuntu 14.10 and Xubuntu >>> 14.10 on my device. >>> Main issues are: >>> Lubuntu 14.10: >>> - only after a terminal upgrade of nvidia driver 304 I get a GUI >>> back.The automatic upgrade from the menu of the software updater >>> gave me again the old version of 304.123 resulting in a blank screen. >>> - login is required after screen time-out, which cannot be switched >>> off. The handling through Xfce Power Manager is confusing and >>> doesn't function well (e.g. system sleep mode cannot be changed from >>> suspend). Installing xscreensaver could help to control the handling >>> of screen time-out, but such action is not needed in L14.04. >>> >>> I will replace shortly my current L14.10 with a fresh daily build >>> and see what happens, but I don't expect differences. >>> >>> Xubuntu 14.10: >>> - only from terminal login and command startx I get a GUI with >>> latest driver 304.123 >>> - although the nvidia sound card is recognized with command inxi >>> -AG, there is no output to the internal monitor speakers (in lubuntu >>> 14.10 there is no sound problem at all) >>> >>> Henk >>> >>> Israel schreef op 6-9-2014 om 20:25: >>>> Great Henk! >>>> So everything works for both L(X)ubuntu? >>>> This issue shouldn't be present then in the daily builds, is this >>>> correct? >>>> >>>> You say there is a sound problem now? >>>> Is this for Lubuntu or Xubuntu? >>>> >>>> Maybe testing the daily image for Lubuntu will confirm that the >>>> startx/nvidia issue is fixed. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 09/06/2014 03:19 AM, Henk Terhell wrote: >>>>> I just read about an upgrade fix that was issued for nvidia 304.123 >>>>> (see >>>>> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lightdm/+bug/1365336 at >>>>> #45; there is an explanation at #32) >>>>> Xubuntu 14.10 still needs startx to boot the desktop after an upgrade >>>>> to this driver was received. >>>>> Very strange there is still a sound problem in this distro. >>>>> >>>>> In Lubuntu 14.10 I did therefore also an upgrade sudo upgrade >>>>> nvidia-304 and got the desktop back! >>>>> >>>>> Henk >>>>> >>>>> Israel schreef op 5-9-2014 om 22:33: >>>>>> Hi Henk, >>>>>> So, if I understand you >>>>>> Lubuntu cannot enter the Destkop, because it cannot start the >>>>>> xserver. >>>>>> Xubuntu fails to start the Xserver, but can start it from terminal. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is this correct? The issue may still be the display manager since >>>>>> Xubuntu does not start X automatically. However there is a >>>>>> possibility >>>>>> that Xorg in Utopic has changes that make supporting your card >>>>>> difficult. I wonder if there are any xorg or xserver updates >>>>>> since you >>>>>> downloaded Lubuntu. I think someone with more understanding of the >>>>>> entire display process of Linux needs to jump in here... >>>>>> But... keep an eye on the updates, and see what packages come in an >>>>>> either fix or break the machine. I may set up a VM to test this, >>>>>> but I >>>>>> have some other stuff going on right now that is taking up a lot of >>>>>> time :) >>>>>> >>>>>> On 09/05/2014 02:46 PM, Henk Terhell wrote: >>>>>>> Strange enough Xubuntu 14.10 on the same PC doesn't start in GUI >>>>>>> but >>>>>>> hangs after every boot at the terminal. After login and StartX the >>>>>>> desktop appears. >>>>>>> Both nouveau and NVDIA 304.123 video drivers do work well in >>>>>>> Xubuntu >>>>>>> 14.10 without any screen freezes so far . So there is difference >>>>>>> with >>>>>>> Lubuntu 14.10. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In Lubuntu 14.10, sound handling is much improved and worked for me >>>>>>> out-of-the-box. >>>>>>> In Xubuntu 14.10 I haven't yet figured out how to get sound as >>>>>>> Pulseaudio cannot find there my built-in monitor speakers. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Henk >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Henk Terhell schreef op 5-9-2014 om 17:12: >>>>>>>> Thanks Israel >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I had filed a bug report #1363919 in the nvidia drivers section >>>>>>>> some >>>>>>>> days ago as I couldn't find a related report. >>>>>>>> The screen dump of startx is different as before. It now only >>>>>>>> shows a >>>>>>>> non-fatal error about XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (Type >>>>>>>> "ONE_Level" has >>>>>>>> 1 levels but <RALT> has 2 symbols). >>>>>>>> A good idea to install Xubuntu 14.10 alongside. I'll let you know. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Henk >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Israel schreef op 5-9-2014 om 16:24: >>>>>>>>> Hi Henk, >>>>>>>>> My guess is that this is something to do with lightdm still, >>>>>>>>> since >>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> just got an upgrade for it. >>>>>>>>> That would be the place to start looking. You could search >>>>>>>>> Launchpad to >>>>>>>>> see if there is a bug related to this issue. If you cannot >>>>>>>>> find any, >>>>>>>>> I'd suggest opening a bug for it. It may effect users of >>>>>>>>> different >>>>>>>>> desktop environments as well, and then we can know that it is >>>>>>>>> not a >>>>>>>>> Lubuntu specific issue. If it is specific to Lubuntu then it >>>>>>>>> may be >>>>>>>>> related to the Lubuntu session file.... (sorry I can't remember >>>>>>>>> what it >>>>>>>>> is called at the moment). This is the Lubuntu specific 'startx' >>>>>>>>> command. >>>>>>>>> I am guessing you still cannot 'startx' and get X up. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You could also try downgrading lightdm, I suppose, but that >>>>>>>>> can be >>>>>>>>> rather messy when you do things like that... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Another option would be to install something like Xubuntu in a >>>>>>>>> secondary >>>>>>>>> partition and see if you are effected with the same issue when >>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>> update. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hope this is fully fixed before release! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 09/05/2014 08:34 AM, Henk Terhell wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Hi Israel >>>>>>>>>> If I recall correctly I got two times upgrades of 14.10 in >>>>>>>>>> last two >>>>>>>>>> days, 3 sept. and today. >>>>>>>>>> Lost my desktop again with the first one. >>>>>>>>>> The output of your command is below: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Henk >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> libdvdnav4:i386 >>>>>>>>>> simple-scan:i386 >>>>>>>>>> python3-gi:i386 >>>>>>>>>> linux-headers-generic:i386 >>>>>>>>>> linux-image-generic:i386 >>>>>>>>>> linux-libc-dev:i386 >>>>>>>>>> python-gi:i386 >>>>>>>>>> python-gobject:all >>>>>>>>>> python3-update-manager:all >>>>>>>>>> update-manager-core:all >>>>>>>>>> update-manager:all >>>>>>>>>> libldap-2.4-2:i386 >>>>>>>>>> chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra:i386 >>>>>>>>>> lshw:i386 >>>>>>>>>> usb-creator-gtk:i386 >>>>>>>>>> usb-creator-common:i386 >>>>>>>>>> lightdm:i386 >>>>>>>>>> liblightdm-gobject-1-0:i386 >>>>>>>>>> language-pack-en:all >>>>>>>>>> language-pack-gnome-en:all >>>>>>>>>> iproute2:i386 >>>>>>>>>> libmpdec2:i386 >>>>>>>>>> libhunspell-1.3-0:i386 >>>>>>>>>> libstartup-notification0:i386 >>>>>>>>>> python3-problem-report:all >>>>>>>>>> python3-apport:all >>>>>>>>>> apport:all >>>>>>>>>> apport-gtk:all >>>>>>>>>> libfm-extra4:i386 >>>>>>>>>> libfm-gtk-data:all >>>>>>>>>> libfm-data:all >>>>>>>>>> libfm-gtk4:i386 >>>>>>>>>> libfm4:i386 >>>>>>>>>> libfm-modules:i386 >>>>>>>>>> upstart:i386 >>>>>>>>>> upstart-bin:i386 >>>>>>>>>> systemd-shim:i386 >>>>>>>>>> binutils:i386 >>>>>>>>>> cpp:i386 >>>>>>>>>> gcc:i386 >>>>>>>>>> g++:i386 >>>>>>>>>> pcmanfm:i386 >>>>>>>>>> lxshortcut:i386 >>>>>>>>>> libitm1:i386 >>>>>>>>>> libgomp1:i386 >>>>>>>>>> gcc-4.9-base:i386 >>>>>>>>>> libstdc++6:i386 >>>>>>>>>> libasan1:i386 >>>>>>>>>> libubsan0:i386 >>>>>>>>>> libcilkrts5:i386 >>>>>>>>>> libatomic1:i386 >>>>>>>>>> libquadmath0:i386 >>>>>>>>>> libgcc-4.9-dev:i386 >>>>>>>>>> cpp-4.9:i386 >>>>>>>>>> gcc-4.9:i386 >>>>>>>>>> g++-4.9:i386 >>>>>>>>>> libstdc++-4.9-dev:i386 >>>>>>>>>> libgcc1:i386 >>>>>>>>>> libpulse0:i386 >>>>>>>>>> libpulse-mainloop-glib0:i386 >>>>>>>>>> linux-libc-dev:i386 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Israel schreef op 5-9-2014 om 15:00: >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Henk, >>>>>>>>>>> What packages were upgraded on your system? >>>>>>>>>>> Something like this command: >>>>>>>>>>> awk '$3~/^upgrade$/ {print $4;}' /var/log/dpkg.log >>>>>>>>>>> can get that info. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 09/05/2014 03:52 AM, Henk Terhell wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> The GUI has gone again after upgrades this week ... >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Henk >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Henk Terhell schreef op 2-9-2014 om 00:28: >>>>>>>>>>>>> The upgrade received today on Lubuntu 14.10 has fully >>>>>>>>>>>>> resolved >>>>>>>>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>> problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Nvida-304.123 works OK now. >>>>>>>>>>>>> My thanks to the dev team. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Henk >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Henk Terhell schreef op 1-9-2014 om 00:26: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> After purging driver NVIDIA-304 I got my desktop back >>>>>>>>>>>>>> with the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> default nouveau driver. However opening Firefox rapidly >>>>>>>>>>>>>> caused a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen freeze. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The older NVIDIA-173 did the same after installing and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rebooting. I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> therefore switched back to NVIDIA-304.123 from the list and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> again no >>>>>>>>>>>>>> GUI... >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So now I know (a) the absence of GUI was caused by the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> driver >>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (b) none of the recommended video drivers for Lubuntu 14.10 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> beta can >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be used on this Geforce 6100 card. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For Lubuntu 14.04 (and 14.10 alpha) the recommended >>>>>>>>>>>>>> NVIDIA-304.117 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> does not cause any problems. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > -- Regards -- Lubuntu-users mailing list Lubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/lubuntu-users