@Fritz
I am was trying to explain not to use the 12.04 version of LXDE, sorry
if that was unclear.

To recap:
You can install a PPA to have an up-to-date WM/DE  (possibly even LXDE).
So yes, you CAN stay on 12.04.

But Dells usually work pretty well (aside from the b43 issue sometimes,
maybe others).  14.04 is quite nice, so if they can upgrade I'd suggest
it for sure.



On 08/08/2015 12:47 PM, Fritz Hudnut wrote:
>
>
>     Hi,
>     In short: Yes you can, and should.  Do not use 12.04 as the version of
>     LXDE (what Lubuntu is built on) is not supported.
>     In Long:
>     You can still use 12.04 if you want to use a PPA to install a
>     different
>     interface.  But even still 14.04 is a very snappy system.  I'd suggest
>     upgrading to 12.04 for many reasons.
>
>
> et al:
>
> Just to rebutt on this somewhat confusing advice, "do not use 12.04"
> followed by "I'd suggest upgrading to 12.04 for many reasons" ?????  :
> - ))  I still have Xu 12.04 running on my PM 3,1; I just got a number
> of updates even last weekend on it.  I've considered the software
> reminders to "upgrade now to 14.04" on it . . . I did move my iBook
> 933 MHz w/ 546 MB RAM to 14.04, but doing so was not as trouble free
> as doing a 12.04 install.  In 14 I had to do an xorg.conf file to keep
> display from freezing, and, then among other issues, the i2c thingie
> so that there is no sound.
>
> Of course this is in the **problem area*** of being PPC, but, in
> comparison, 12.04 installed w/o issues, and, other than not having
> "suspend" . . . it is fine.  There is always a new flavor of linux
> coming down the pike, but, for the old hardware perhaps whatever runs
> best/easiest is the best choice.
>
> Will I ever bring my PM up to 14??? perhaps; I recently tested the
> LiveDVD of Lu 14.04.2 on it, and posted my experience of having no
> need for boot params, it was a bit "snappier" as far as running
> commands in the Terminal went; but then the window title bar text is
> illegible . . . whereas everywhere else the display resolution was
> fine . . . .  Very odd, not a total showstopper, but, why take time to
> upgrade the old machine, and then spend time getting it to do basic
> stuff, stuff that 12.04 is doing just fine???  Didn't get any comments
> from the list on that one . . . in terms of suggestions on how to
> render titlebar text so it would be read-able, or ideas on why it
> would be un-readable, when the rest is fine.
>
> Israel has mentioned "ToriOS" here on the list a few times along with
> JWM, which is possibly still based on 12.04???  Would that be a way to
> get an update on 12.04, but still keep the stability and ease of
> installation . . . rather than increasing system requirements on
> hardware to move it up to 14??  Just trying to show that there might
> be benefit for staying with 12 on low spec equipment.
>
> F.
>
> PS: Someone mentioned qupzilla here and awhile back, so I was looking
> for a browser that could work on my PPC stuff . . . couldn't get it to
> show up in 12, but on the iBook with 14 it did, so I installed it . .
> . when I tried to "go" to Gmail or other webmail pages, it
> crashed--several times . . . it was "removed."  : - )
>
>
>
>


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