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>    1. Re:  [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area (Simon Quigley)
>    2. Re:  [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area (Walter Lapchynski)
>    3. Re:  [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area (Walter Lapchynski)
>    4. Re:  [lubuntu-devel] Your thoughts (Simon Quigley)
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> Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 22:08:07 -0500
> From: Simon Quigley <tsimo...@ubuntu.com>
> To: "Phill. Whiteside" <phill...@gmail.com>
> Cc: lubuntu-devel <lubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com>, lubuntu user list
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> Subject: Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area
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> Fine, but that's not how you use Doodle. :)
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 20:01:11 -0700
> From: Walter Lapchynski <w...@ubuntu.com>
> To: "Phill. Whiteside" <phill...@gmail.com>
> Cc: lubuntu-devel <lubuntu-de...@lists.ubuntu.com>, lubuntu user list
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> Subject: Re: [lubuntu-users] [lubuntu-devel] LXQt wiki area
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> Doodle is a polling mechanism that anyone can participate in, so got can
> include whomever you want with nothing more than a link. I'll set it up for
> you if you're unfamiliar.
> On May 9, 2016 7:58 PM, "Phill. Whiteside" <phill...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Walter,
>
> does Doodle have just under 8,000 people and similar for the facebook page
> (15,000)
>
> But, i follow orders....
>
> On 10 May 2016 at 03:33, Walter Lapchynski <w...@ubuntu.com> wrote:
>
> > Having it be exclusively on Facebook makes no sense. Make a Doodle poll
> or
> > something of the sort and link it to all the places.
> > On May 9, 2016 7:31 PM, "Phill. Whiteside" <phill...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> 7,769 members <
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/lubuntu.official/members/>(102
> >> new) <https://www.facebook.com/groups/lubuntu.official/#>
> >>
> >> just under 8,000 people.. let the vote go for 24 hours and we will
> accept
> >> it.
> >>
> >> The question:
> >> Hi follks, As lubutnu moves from GTK (current) to Qt (LXQt) I propose
> >> that we also move our wiki system to MediaWiki and have the moinmoin
> wiki
> >> for the GTK variants.
> >> +1 is for us setting up the new wiki area for Qt
> >> -1 is for us keep using moinmoin untill it gets moved to MediaWiki Is
> >> that fair?
> >>
> >>
> >> On 10 May 2016 at 03:24, Phill. Whiteside <phill...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I was not aware it was a vote.... let me set one up for everyone to be
> >>> aware of.
> >>>
> >>> Phillw
> >>>
> >>> On 10 May 2016 at 03:22, Walter Lapchynski <w...@ubuntu.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> So what I hear is, on the proposal of making a separate wiki server
> for
> >>>> LXQt, the voting is as follows:
> >>>>
> >>>> In favor: 1
> >>>> Against: 2
> >>>>
> >>>> How does everyone else vote?
> >>>> On May 9, 2016 7:18 PM, "Phill. Whiteside" <phill...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Walter,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> we have exactly ONE page for LXQt.... How is having two operating
> >>>>> systems running side by side a better case of having two wiki areas?
> We are
> >>>>> committed to Qt and it appears Ubuntu are committed to moving from
> Moinmoin
> >>>>> to MediaWiki. Have a look at
> >>>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Developers/PrePostReleaseTODO and
> >>>>> tell me how the hell am I supposed to add in LXQt running along side
> the
> >>>>> GTK ones...
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In my heart, I cannot see any reason NOT to have LXQt on the newer
> >>>>> MediaWiki system and keep our LTS's etc on moin. This does give
> everyone
> >>>>> just under 18 months to decide if we go to Qt or not. Alf is quietly
> >>>>> confident that it will be ready, and I do have faith in him and
> Julien
> >>>>>
> >>>>> As for maintaining?... We will have an official release (GTK) and a
> >>>>> community respin (Qt). This may be new to some, but us old wrinklies
> >>>>> remember them.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> There is no better time for lubuntu to run dual wiki systems as to
> >>>>> when we are running dual ISO's and ensure bugs are reported to the
> correct
> >>>>> version.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Phill.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 10 May 2016 at 02:52, Walter Lapchynski <w...@ubuntu.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> You seem to be missing the fact that we all agree that MediaWiki is
> >>>>>> better than Moin. I don't want two wikis to have to maintain. If we
> can
> >>>>>> have someone else do the work of securing and maintaining our wiki,
> it's
> >>>>>> less for us to deal with. It would be the same for our WordPress
> site of we
> >>>>>> let Canonical host. The issue is not the money, nor is it being
> against
> >>>>>> everything you do. It's about limiting the strain on the entire
> team.
> >>>>>> On May 9, 2016 6:24 PM, "Phill. Whiteside" <phill...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Why do you think lubuntu.me is not hosted with canonical, yet they
> >>>>>>> did the trade mark registration? They are paying for the domain
> and the
> >>>>>>> hosting comes free..... I'll chat to Alf and Julien about what wiki
> >>>>>>> structure is best, writing up a wiki structure in moin that is not
> >>>>>>> compatible with MediaWiki is foolish. Any one who thinks Canonical
> IS are
> >>>>>>> smarter than Fedora guys is foolish. They posted their notes up so
> as to
> >>>>>>> help others facing the nightmare.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> But, as the two of you are 100% against everything I suggest, I'll
> >>>>>>> just go 'meh' and work with debian-lxqt which you may find is the
> upstream
> >>>>>>> requirements for lubuntu-lxqt.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Kindest Regards,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Phill.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 10 May 2016 at 02:14, Walter Lapchynski <w...@ubuntu.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I'm up for what the boss, i.e. the team, agrees on, too. My vote
> is
> >>>>>>>> to continue to use Moin. Ubuntu is done with it and are working
> on fixing
> >>>>>>>> the scripts so they can move entirely over to MediaWiki.
> Everything already
> >>>>>>>> on Moin will get magically converted. If we make our own thing,
> we have
> >>>>>>>> administrative overhead to deal with.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> It's bad enough we don't have Canonical paying for our domain and
> >>>>>>>> dealing with our hosting. While we're at it can we fix that, too?
> >>>>>>>> On May 9, 2016 6:08 PM, "Phill. Whiteside" <phill...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Well,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> it is vote time. I'm for not the fact that even fedora devs had a
> >>>>>>>>> makeshift script to convert things from moin to mediawiki[1] Any
> one
> >>>>>>>>> wanting to make a new project under moinmoin is making for more
> work in the
> >>>>>>>>> future. But, I'm up for what the boss says.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/MoinMoin
> >>>>>>>>> Is such a pain in the butt.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 10 May 2016 at 01:58, Simon Quigley <tsimo...@ubuntu.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> IMHO we should write everything in MoinMoin then wait for the
> >>>>>>>>>> conversion so people can still view the wiki now and continue
> to hack on it
> >>>>>>>>>> but when the conversion runs, we have everything already
> available and set
> >>>>>>>>>> in place.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Simon Quigley
> >>>>>>>>>> tsimo...@ubuntu.com
> >>>>>>>>>> tsimonq2 on Freenode
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
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> Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 20:18:23 -0700
> From: Walter Lapchynski <w...@ubuntu.com>
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> It works.
> On May 9, 2016 8:08 PM, "Simon Quigley" <tsimo...@ubuntu.com> wrote:
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> > Fine, but that's not how you use Doodle. :)
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> Date: Mon, 9 May 2016 22:21:54 -0500
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