Hi Chris, I know you can use icons, but what I meant is: I have never seen so far an Official Wiki Page for Ubuntu or any other Variant with icons just like Karl's Design. Personal Pages are not official documentation pages :) it's your page that talks about you and your achievements so you are free to design it and edit it the way you like. But when it comes to Documentation Pages, I think one needs to be more careful. I don't know but since I joined until now, I hear people keep saying "we must stick to Ubuntu Style" so that is where the idea came from :) I don't mind to use icons but I'm not sure how to make that clickable so when you click on one icon, it will open a link which is different than the other one. Example: When you Click "What is Lubuntu" that should open a link. When you click "Get the iso", that should open another link, not the same as the first one. How to do this? I have no idea, you are the Wiki Master now :D
On the point of "guidelines" I haven't got an answer right now because I > received an post from the ubuntu-doc mailing-list which mentions something > about guidelines. So I'll respond to that post and hope to have an answer > on that asap! > What are you talking about here? O_o Perhaps you are replying my other email about guidelines? that was different email because I didn't talk about guidelines here! I'm confused :/ As for the mess, I know all that so you don't really have to explain much ;) We need more members and I need time as well to get my hand dirty with Wiki Pages. Dammit, I wish it's more than 24hours per day :/ On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 9:42 PM, Chris <[email protected]> wrote: > Aloha everyone, > > First of all, Ali this is to correct you: icons can and are used on the > wiki. If you look at my personal page [ > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MrChrisDruif ] you'll notice I actually like big > flashy icons(!). The only problem is that the icons themselves can't be > clicked, but that isn't a big issue. > > On the point of "guidelines" I haven't got an answer right now because I > received an post from the ubuntu-doc mailing-list which mentions something > about guidelines. So I'll respond to that post and hope to have an answer > on that asap! > > On reasoning why the Lubuntu wiki is as it is right now is this: > I didn't join Lubuntu from the start (even if it seems like that to some) > and the ones before me didn't always make the right decisions. So when I > joined about a year ago the mess was pretty much the same as it is now. It > has become gradually better along the way, but not much because of personal > issues in the past year. I needed to find both time and, much more crucial, > motivation! So when I had both I accomplished much, but those times were > rare! Take for example the big move from the duplicate stuff on the wiki > pages which I did in one night. > On Apr 23, 2012 12:40 PM, "Ali Linx (amjjawad)" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hello Karl, >> >> I'm not sure if I understood your email 100% but this is what "I think" >> about the point you highlighted. To be honest, I used to think like you >> before not too long and then, I realized that there is much easier way or >> approach. People/Users don't really have to find a Lubuntu's Link on >> help.ubuntu.com if they seek help or whatever, they need to type >> "lubuntu" on google and the 3rd result will be: >> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu >> >> https://help.ubuntu.com/ << this page is, IMHO, very bad start for a >> beginner or new comer. It is not even an index and it should NOT be a >> homepage for Ubuntu Help but I have no idea how to fix that or where to >> suggest a better page? >> >> I used to be stuck there when I was new but then, I realized that I need >> to use Google to find whatever I need and indeed, that was the key that >> saved my time and gave me whatever I need. >> >> Your page that you attached is GREAT and I LIKE IT but IMHO, it is much >> better for a website than a Wiki Page. Icons on the Wiki Page might be not >> very good idea and I think Phill or Chris have better answer because I'm >> NOT a Wiki Expert, I just didn't see that style on any Wiki Page before. In >> fact, that itself could be a plus. I mean, it's good that we be unique and >> have our own but again, we are an Ubuntu Variant so I guess we need to >> stick to their style. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong :) >> >> IMHO, we need one, two or even three pages which will work as an index, >> just like LOST and these pages should appear on google search first page >> when you search for lubuntu or help lubuntu, etc. Each page will have ALL >> the important links. >> Why Three? say one is the Website, one is the Wiki and other is a blog, a >> facebook page or Ubuntu Forum thread. >> >> Our Website MUST have ALL the basic and important link, period. Our >> website must be the FIRST STEP that anyone will go through to download >> lubuntu, help, etc etc etc. Currently, we are focusing MORE on the Wiki >> which still not 100% organized but I'm sure Chris and everyone are doing >> their best to achieve that. >> >> The current website is confusing so I do hope the new one will fix that >> issue. >> >> If the homepage of our website will be something like the attached design >> then WOW, that is a GREAT idea and +1 from me in advance. >> >> This is my thoughts :) >> >> You are doing a great job so keep it up and let's work as a team in order >> to achieve what we are dreaming about ;) >> >> I'm ALL for you guys! >> >> On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Karl Anliot <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> open the attachment. >>> This is what I had in mind to make the help.ubuntu.com (which is our >>> main support page) more friendly. >>> >>> the icons are open source. >>> what do i need to do to move to next stage? >>> >>> While I have your attention: >>> if you google 'help lubuntu' >>> 3rd result is this page: >>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu >>> >>> I'd like to move/merge that page into the 'what is lubuntu' (upper left) >>> >>> The idea is to clean up stuff so people know where to find the wiki >>> pages. That means keeping only developer pages on >>> wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu... which someone had to tell me only 2 weeks >>> ago. I forget who told me, but I honestly didn't know where the help >>> pages were. >>> ************** >>> ok. just because I know I'm hard to follow and I jump over stuff I >>> have to explain >>> >>> 1. the image is a follow up to the post on the lubuntu-desktop about >>> 5 days ago where I said I wanna organize the wiki. >>> 2. organizing the wiki means keeping people from getting lost on the >>> wiki.ubuntu.com wiki. if you don't understand what the >>> wiki.ubuntu.com wiki is, go there now, and see if you get to the >>> support page? Most likely you can't get, let alone be expected to >>> find the help.ubuntu.com wiki if you land on the wiki.ubuntu.com wiki >>> first. this is a problem. I'm not blaming anyone. >>> >>> p.s >>> I can't make people create/edit the wiki pages, but we can make it >>> more rewarding and less scary for them to do so. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> *Best Regards, >> amjjawad* >> Lubuntu Support Team Co-ordinator >> Lubuntu Communication Team Administrator >> Lubuntu One Stop Thread<http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755> >> My Wiki Page <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> | My >> Launchpad<https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad>| My >> Ubuntu Forum Profile <http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822> >> ** >> >> >> -- >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-wiki-docs >> Post to : [email protected] >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-wiki-docs >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> -- *Best Regards, amjjawad* Lubuntu Support Team Co-ordinator Lubuntu Communication Team Administrator Lubuntu One Stop Thread <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1844755> My Wiki Page <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> | My Launchpad<https://launchpad.net/%7Eamjjawad>| My Ubuntu Forum Profile <http://ubuntuforums.org/member.php?u=941822> **
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