2013/10/30 Ali Linx (amjjawad) <[email protected]> > > On Tue, Oct 29, 2013 at 8:15 PM, Iberê Fernandes < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi there! >> >> Should we announce in our channels at Facebook and G+ that Lubuntu 12.04 >> has reached EOL? >> >> I'm not running Lubuntu 12.04 and I don't have a L12.04 image. >> >> If someone still has Lubuntu 12.04, could you provide the output of this >> command, please? >> >> ubuntu-support-status --show-all >> >> source: >> http://www.ubuntu.com/info/release-end-of-life >> >> Best regards, >> Iberê >> > > Hi, > > This is: Linux 3.2.0-55-generic #85-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 2 12:29:27 UTC > 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux (Lubuntu 12.04 amd64). > > Output of that tricky command is: > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > *$ ubuntu-support-status --show-all* > > *You have 20 packages (1.6%) supported until October 2013 (18m) > * > You have 15 packages (1.2%) supported until April 2015 (18m) > You have 996 packages (81.9%) supported until April 2017 (5y) > You have 3 packages (0.2%) supported until October 2018 (5y) > > You have 0 packages (0.0%) that can not/no-longer be downloaded > You have 182 packages (15.0%) that are unsupported > > *Supported until October 2013 (18m):* > esound-common libaudiofile1 libcue1 libenca0 libesd0 libgsf-1-114 > libgsf-1-common libid3tag0 libimlib2 libmad0 libva-x11-1 libvdpau1 > libxcb-composite0 libxcb-randr0 libxcb-xv0 notification-daemon pidgin > pidgin-data xscreensaver xscreensaver-data > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > NOW, which part that tells you this system has reached its EOL and should > NOT be used? this part? > *"You have 20 packages (1.6%) supported until October 2013 (18m)"* > > If YES, then what is the difference between this: > *You have 20 packages (1.6%) supported until October 2013 (18m) > * > * > * > and this: > * > * > *You have 182 packages (15.0%) that are unsupported* > > The reason why I am asking is because the output of: > > *$ ubuntu-support-status --show-all* > * > * > That shows "unsupported packages" on my Lubuntu 12.04 Installation *(which > supposed that it has reached its EOL)* is very close to the output that > shows "unsupported packages" on my Lubuntu 13.04 installation *which has > NOT yet reached its EOL*. > > Examples of *mutual* *'unsupported packages'* on both my Lubuntu > *12.04*installation and Lubuntu > *13.04* installations: > > > - lubuntu-artwork > - lxpanel > - lxsession > - xfce4-power-manager > - pcmanfm > > > These packages (just an example of much more packages) are indeed on the > official repositories. > > These packages, as per the command, are not supported whether on Lubuntu > 12.04 or Lubuntu 13.04. > > Now, I do hope you see why this is confusing. > > If both Lubuntu 12.04 and Lubuntu 13.04 showing the SAME unsupported > packages, HOW CAN you tell which system has reached its EOL and must not be > used and which system is still usable? > > Unless of course, the part that says "unsupported packages" should be > ignored and this part is what we need to look at to tell which has reached > its EOL and which one is not: > > *Lubutnu 12.04* > *You have 20 packages (1.6%) supported until October 2013 (18m)* > You have 15 packages (1.2%) supported until April 2015 (18m) > You have 996 packages (81.9%) supported until April 2017 (5y) > You have 3 packages (0.2%) supported until October 2018 (5y) > > > You have 0 packages (0.0%) that can not/no-longer be downloaded > You have 182 packages (15.0%) that are unsupported > > *Lubuntu 13.04* > *You have 1200 packages (84.8%) supported until January 2014 (9m) > *You have 12 packages (0.8%) supported until July 2014 (9m) > > You have 0 packages (0.0%) that can not/no-longer be downloaded > You have 203 packages (14.3%) that are unsupported > > - - - - - - > > HOWEVER, why PCManFM for example or LXPanel is UNsupported on 13.04? > > I hope you see why this is confusing and I do strongly suggest we create a > * NEW Wiki Page* to explain this since this has been an endless debate > since Lubuntu 12.04 (one year and a half). > > By the way, I have: > Lubuntu 12.04 installation > Lubuntu 13.04 installation > and Lubuntu 13.10 installation > > So, if you need/require the full output (to compare), let me know! > > > -- > Remember: "All of us are smarter than any one of us." > Best Regards, > amjjawad <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad> > Areas of Involvement <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/AreasOfInvolvement> > My Projects <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/amjjawad/Projects> >
I'm running Lubuntu 13.04. Maybe you didn't get my reply quoting the answer from our friend vasa1: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/lubuntu-users/2013-October/005892.html What he said makes sense: $ apt-cache show lxpanel Package: lxpanel Priority: optional Section: universe/x11 Installed-Size: 3279 Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <[email protected]> Original-Maintainer: Debian LXDE Maintainers <[email protected]> Architecture: i386 Version: 0.5.12-0ubuntu2 Depends: libasound2 (>= 1.0.16), libc6 (>= 2.7), libcairo2 (>= 1.2.4), libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0 (>= 2.22.0), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.35.9), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.24.0), libiw30 (>= 30~pre1), libmenu-cache2, libwnck22 (>= 1:2.22), libx11-6, lxmenu-data Recommends: xterm | pavucontrol | gnome-alsamixer Suggests: lxsession | menu, iceweasel | www-browser Filename: pool/universe/l/lxpanel/lxpanel_0.5.12-0ubuntu2_i386.deb Note that lxpanel above is from pool/universe Now the same command against esound-common: ~$ apt-cache show esound-common Package: esound-common Priority: optional Section: sound Installed-Size: 80 Maintainer: Ubuntu Developers <[email protected]> Original-Maintainer: Josselin Mouette <[email protected]> Architecture: all Source: esound Version: 0.2.41-10ubuntu1 Conflicts: libesd-alsa0 Filename: pool/main/e/esound/esound-common_0.2.41-10ubuntu1_all.deb Size: 9412 Supported: 9m So this package is from pool/main. So from vasa1 and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu, I believe (not sure) that both main and restricted repositories are the ones supported by Canonical. My 2 cents.
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