We will be putting most resources into a read-only mode, including SVN.  I'm 
fine with leaving the user mailing list up and running if that is desired.  We 
don't ever delete history here.  You will still be able to download old 
versions.  As I said before, however, I really think some of you committed 
users should get together and move all of this stuff to the Incubator (it won't 
be that hard, it took the OpenNLP project a total of about 1 week to move from 
SourceForge into the ASF) so that you can be a self-determined, standalone 
project.  You all seem to be saying that is what you want, but no one seems 
willing to step up and do the work (which I have even volunteered to help with 
even though I have no interest in .NET at this point in time), which is, 
ultimately, the biggest problem with this project.

On Dec 30, 2010, at 11:55 AM, Simone Chiaretta wrote:

> 
> If it was not into the ASF this would have been a great oss project
> where the mailing list is sustained by the users directly (vs most
> other projects where the ppl answering are the devs). 6 months without
> a commit is not the end of the world.
> I fear that most possible committers are scared away by the
> over-political and burocratic approach of the ASF.

I think this is really overblown.  There is nothing to be scared of about 
volunteering at the ASF (if there were, do you really think the ASF would have 
over 2000 committers and 80+ top level projects and sponsorship from almost all 
of the largest software companies in the world?)  The ASF has a few rules that 
are in place to protect committers and the Foundation and to ensure reasonable 
levels of quality, but for the most part you just do your day to day work and 
then every now and then put together a release that meets certain requirements. 
 Frankly, IMO, any open source developer who gives it an iota of thought should 
be more scared to work on open source outside of the cover of a foundation like 
the ASF (or others) given the legal state of software patents and litigation in 
the US and other places.  Not that a foundation is an invincibility cloak, but 
at least there is a legal framework in place to help, never mind all the other 
infrastructure and collective wisdom of people who have been at it for a long 
time.

My two cents,
Grant

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