Hi Nathan,

On 23 Feb 2011, at 6:01 PM, Nathan Kurz wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 23, 2011 at 9:14 AM, Andrew S. Townley <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Well, actually, I want it for more than that.  For my particular needs, I 
>> need to get the field name where the match occurred in the document, and 
>> then I'd ideally like to have the start offset into that field and the 
>> length of the match.
> 
> Apart from the lack of Ruby bindings, this won't be a problem with
> Lucy.  It's a data-forward approach, so that if the information is in
> the indexes, you'll have access to it.  You might need to write a
> custom Hit class (or the like), but it will certainly be possible.

Sounds good.

> 
>> One of the things that struck me was the "implementing as much functionality 
>> in high-level languages as possible" comment.  What does this mean, exactly?
>> Why was this approach chosen rather than put all the muscle in the C code 
>> and provide thin wrappers--even via SWIG or something more hand-tailored 
>> where necessary/appropriate?
> 
> I think you're missing an implied "And not only that, if you order by
> midnight tonight now you'll also receive..."  Lucy is/will-have a
> complete C core that can be used directly, but it will also be
> possible to override the functionality class-by-class in Perl, Ruby,
> Python, etc.   It's the added potential for accessing this
> functionality from a scripting language that is being highlighted, not
> the requirement.

Does it come with flying cars too?? ;) http://xkcd.com/864/

>> Part of the reason I ask has to do with the future of my own project.  Much 
>> of what I have now will eventually be rewritten piecemeal in C++ and then 
>> wrapped via SWIG so I can have Ruby and Java bindings as well as use it in 
>> other environments natively supporting C/C++.  Whatever route I end up going 
>> for fulltext, this is something that would need to support the same kind of 
>> thing as I'd actually be leveraging it more from the C++ code than the Ruby 
>> code.
> 
> Sounds like an excellent fit for Lucy.   In the same way that we hope
> to allow the C-core to be overridden with scripting languages for fast
> prototyping, it's also should be easy to then selectively optimize
> that with C++.  It's an ambitious multilingual goal, so it's possible
> it will not be fully achieved, but your sort of application is exactly
> the reason this approach was chosen.


Well, all that makes me very optimistic about the future of Lucy.  I'll 
certainly keep my eye on things, and if I have time, I'll certainly help if I 
can.  This is a pretty core feature of the system I'm building - and it's not 
your average Web search application - so I'm sure I'll be able to provide some 
alternative needs from the middle-of-the-road ones.

Thanks for your replies, guys.

Cheers,

ast
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Andrew S. Townley <[email protected]>
http://atownley.org

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