On 08 11 2002 21:36, Valentin Tzankov wrote:

> Ot kogo ste poiskash takyv dokument pri izpolzavane na PGP?
> tova e koeto pitam veche tzjala sedmitza, i ne razbiram sto za elektronen
> podpis e.

Ok ste ti dam dosaden primer s BG situation i Informacionno Obsluzhvane:
otivash s key-q (generiran s pgp/gpg) v IO Office za da ti go podpishat, 
pokazvash Passport ili Act za razhdane ili DNK informaciq ili krystelno ili 
gospod znae kakyv dokument udostoverqvash 4e TI SI TI ... Te trebe ti go 
podpishat -- dovizhdane, dovizhdane (secret key-q si e forever tvoj i ne e 
nuzhno nikoj da znae za nego i ti ne mozhe da go podmenish na svoq glava 
ponezhe toj e obvyrzan s public key-q signat ot IO, ako trebe da smenqsh to 
smenqsh i dvata)... Eto tova e normalnoto, za syzhalenie koeto ne se pravi ot 
IO ..... pri vas polozhenieto bi moglo ili ne bi moglo da byde systoto -- 
vis4ko si zavisi ot vas ...

> The RIPE NCC does not  guarantee that a key belongs to any specific entity;
> it is not a certificate authority. Anyone can supply any public keys with
> any ownership information to the database and these keys can be used to
> protect other objects by checking that the update comes from someone who
> knows the corresponding secret key.
>
>  a www.banknet.hu izpolzvat PGP za krajno zatvorena X.25 mreja s kraen broj
> predvaritelno izvestni clienti

Tova e 4asten slu4aj i ne e problem na PGP-to, kakto i na kojto i da e drug 
encryption and signing tool, pravi tazi tynka, no reshavasta razlika ! 
zna4i mislq 4e ve4e znaesh 4e kolkoto e po-podpisvan edin key (ot drugi 
persons) tolkova e po-veroqtno tozi key naistina da prinadlezhi za dadeniq 
person stoto pove4e hora kazvat 4e tova e taka podpisvajki key-q mu. Nikoj ne 
ti pre4i da polzvash i certificates, nikoj ne ti pre4i da iskash dokument za 
samoli4nost na liceto, DNK info, otpe4atyk ot zybi, act za razhdane i t.n. 
kogato toj ti dava negoviq public key li4no na teb face2face ako tova ti 
trebe. 

E kyde e problema s PGP v slu4ajq ? 
I s kakvo tova ot VeriSign (barabar s cert-a) deto ste go polu4ili nagotovo go 
prevyzhozhda (ako naistina znaete kakvo ste polu4ili ot tqh i kakvo polzvate, 
no tova si e vasha grizha ako polzvate "4erna kutiq" i ne vi e grizha). Ima 
li nesto po-iztestvano ot PGP ? 

> imali smisyl da cheta drugite?

NE. Ne mislq 4e ste ti pomogne, mnogo ;-)

> Vesselin Kolev wrote:
> > Mdam... RIPE izpolzvat PGP za authenikacia... Abe koi sa tezi RIPE:)))
> >
> > http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2726.html
> > http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/db/pgp.html
> >
> > (BankNet syshto izpolzva PGP)
> >
> > Drugi (+Application za Apache):
> >
> > http://commsun.its.csiro.au/pgp/process.html
> > http://commsun.its.csiro.au/pgp/index.html
> >
> > http://www.boran.com/security/misc.html
> > http://www.stnb.com/security.htm
> > http://www.piseries.com/computers-electronics/computer-sw/ls/pgp-security
> >.htm

Vessenin Kolev -- ne vizhdam smisyl da se otpisvash ot listata, az naprimer 
imam zhelanie da 4eta i znaq za qsni to4ni i dokazani tvydeniq... Vsi4ko 
drugo izkazano s "tezhki" i "kompetentni" frazi go polzvam za razvle4enie, 
koeto systo ne e losho i si e v reda na nestata. Vseki si ima pravoto da 
opredelq koe ot tova deto fyr4i se qde i koe ot tova deto se qde fyr4i. taka 
4e go on s PGP/encryption/signing/algorythms docs. 

-- 
Greets, fr33zb1 
[catching up with Sid (the boy next door who destroyed toys :-)]
[reg your bg translation or grab one from http://www.bgit.net/?id=37892]

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