Team,

I was just sharing information on a providers offering,
didn't mean to spoil your day,  nevertheless, we have learnt something.
A white flag of surrender for you and to you all

warmest regards

Shem Nnaggenda  K. Nsubuga

Country IT Manager, Standard Chartered Bank Uganda
Standard Chartered Bank, 1, Aldermanbury Square, London EC2V 7SB, UNITED KINGDOM

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"Ziggy David Lubowa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

26-07-04 03:52 PM
Please respond to lug

       
        To:        [EMAIL PROTECTED]
        cc:        
        Subject:        RE: lug_: The giant is moving




On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:34:38 +0300, gittas wrote
> With good IT implementations they would not be sending 25 copies
> every time they send an e-mail


***
:) , well  dont measure IT implementation by a small flaw in webmail
software . FYI your statement is not within the scope of conversation. If you
really did want to go into implementation[s] we would go on and on and
eventually go offtopic which we have.

- Z



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ziggy David Lubowa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 3:29 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: lug_: The giant is moving
>
> On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 15:21:50 +0300, gittas wrote
> > B) Should have read, Telco firms is where you have some of the best
> > technology implementations in this country.
>
> ** WRONG, Telco have sophisticated hardware thats all .
> Technology implementations are spread out in many different small
> companies i
>
> for one know that Trueafrican has a very good variety of technology
> implementations that most telco's around Africa dont have.
>
> - Ziggy
>
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Henry Kirya [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 3:06 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: lug_: The giant is moving
> >
> > choose 1 correct ans.
> >
> > Ques) why do telco related posts attract such a huge interest in the
> > lug list
> >
> > Ans)
> >
> > A) linux is inherently a communication OS so most pple who use it at
> > work are employed by either asn isp , telecomm or networking firm B)
> > telco firms is where the big bucks are, read UTL, MTN etc , so they
> > pique our interest in much the same way that overpaid fooball stars
> > do C) just just
> >
> > good luck !
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 2:52 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: lug_: The giant is moving
> >
> > I don't know whether SMS is still not widely used in this country, I
> > get messages from people who haven't attended formal education in
> > the rural areas
> > (I believe almost 90% of those who own mobile phones can use sms),
> > but also you stated that;
> >
> > "Some people might not mind at all scratching those many times and
> > sending a simple sms"
> >
> > In the end they are sending an SMS, huh
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ziggy David Lubowa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 2:44 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: lug_: The giant is moving
> >
> > When rolling out a product you first have to look at a couple of
> > things, Acceptance and Convinience. I stand to be corrected on this
> > as well, my view is that the whole sms thing is something you going
> > to school the masses for a
> >
> > longtime. As simple as we think SMS ( to some of us who have used it
> > for a while and also know the who schematics of it) it might not be
> > to many, which means you might have many calls to your call centres
> > for help. Look at SMSINFO and all the other SMS products  do you
> > know how long it actually took
> >
> > to sink in , even with all the advertising  many people still didnt
> > understand the product, either it was syntax errors or didnt know which
> > number or they need a whole lot of schooling to get it right. These
> > are some of the disadvantages of SMS i believe. Some people might
> > not mind at all scratching those many times and sending a simple sms
> > , it actually makes them
> >
> > feel that they have more control of there airtime. Look at companies
> > who still use notebooks rather than Databases which have a point and
> > click interface, what would you say is more convinient there ??? and
> > how long do you think it will take them to accept  change ??
> >
> > i am basically looking at acceptance which i believe plays a big
> > role in product roll out.
> >
> >  -Ziggy
> >
> > On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 14:07:40 +0300, gittas wrote
> > > Not wanting to always turn the lug into some Marketing place or Company
> > > bashing list, honestly is it more convenient scratching 5 times and
STILL
> > > sending the recipient an message or giving them a call or just
> > > sending the message.
> > >
> > > Also Ziggy, if I intend to give you 2000/= am now past the point of
> > > your 2 minutes argument, what the point of discussion is, is the
> > > method of getting it to you.
> > >
> > > Is it more convenient to buy another card, scratch it 5 times and
> > > then send you the message?
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ziggy David Lubowa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 1:45 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: lug_: The giant is moving
> > >
> > > I think it is pretty much the same concept , just different ways of
> > > getting the job done. It seems it's now about who can offer the best
> > > value added service if you would like to call it that. The mango
> > > product is like the one in Tanzania and i think it is working fine.
> > > As for MTN besides the fact that you can share airtime, how many
> > > people would share airtime that is already loaded, infact think of
> > > it this way most pre-paid subscribers  who are willing to help you
> > > use their phones  when you want to make a call, what they
> > >
> > > would say is " Please use 1minute or 2 minutes ) am sure all of you
> > > who have ever borrowed phones to make a call always use about that
> > > much, so i find it hard to believe that someone can actually send
> > > you 2,000/= of there already loaded airtime without much of a
> > > complaint. I think airtime that is not loaded yet like Mango's
> > > airtime strip is more of a better innovation.
> > >
> > > I stand to be corrected on this :)
> > >
> > >  - Ziggy
> > >
> > > On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 13:29:08 +0300, gittas wrote
> > > > How does Me2U compare with Mango Share card in terms of convenience?
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Wire James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 1:33 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: lug_: The giant is moving
> > > >
> > > > These guys truly amaze me. Last weekend I flipped when I tried out
> > > > the Mango Share card. It is a cool innovation indeed. Buying airtime
> > > > in smaller denominations is one easy way of reaching out to the low
> > income
> > > > earners.
> > > >
> > > > Viva UTL
> > > >
> > > > Wire
> > > >
> > > > > *   UGANDA'S UTL LAUNCHES SOLAR LANDLINE
> > > > >
> > > > > Uganda Telecom has introduced solar-powered accessory for the newly
> > > > > introduced TelesaverPlus landline. This will especially be useful
for
> > > > > rural
> > > > > populations, which have no access to regular electricity power.
> > > > >
> > > > > "This is in line with our goal to provide total communication
> > solutions
> > > > > to everyone including those in the rural areas at rates suitable to
> > > > > them. Everybody has a right to communicate," Mr Hans Paulsen, UTL's
> > > > > Marketing Manager, said on Monday.
> > > > >
> > > > > He was speaking at the launch of the two products (TelesaverPlus and
> > > > > solar charger) in Mbarara town. The solar panel, which comes with a
> > > > > battery,  costs
> > > > > Shs160,000 exclusive of the landline, which costs Shs240,000. More

> > than
> > > > > 8,000 people have subscribed to TelesaverPlus since its launch a
> month
> > > > > ago.
> > > > >
> > > > > Faisal Ijaz Khan, UTL's Chief Commercial Officer, said UTL is in the
> > > > > process
> > > > > of upgrading its network to accommodate the increasing subscription.
> > He
> > > > > said
> > > > > within six weeks Masaka, Ntungamo, Kabale, Bushenyi, Kasese, Soroti
> > and
> > > > > Tororo will be connected on the TelesaverPlus.
> > > > > (SOURCE: The Monitor)
> > > > >
> > > > > warmest regards
> > > > > �
> > > > > Shem Nnaggenda  K. Nsubuga
> > > > > Country IT Manager, Standard Chartered Bank Uganda
> > > > > Standard Chartered Bank, 1, Aldermanbury Square, London EC2V 7SB,
> > UNITED
> > > > >  KINGDOM
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> > > > > "Leading the Way in Asia ,� Africa and the Middle East"
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > "Although about 3 million computers get sold every year in China, but
> > > > people don't pay for the software," he said. "Someday they will,
> though.
> > > > As long as they are going to steal it, we want them to steal ours.
> > They'll
> > > > get sort of addicted, and then we'll somehow figure out how to
> > > > collect sometime in the next decade." Bill Gates as Quoted by C|Net
> > > News.com
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> > >
> > > David Ziggy Lubowa
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> Regards
>
> David Ziggy Lubowa
> Network Janitor
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> E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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David Ziggy Lubowa
Network Janitor
Tel: +256 078 230380
E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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