Wow, another Xbox 360 Owner in Ug HALO 3 Deathmatch! ;-) Seriously though your right the state of gaming on Linux blows compared to Windows, I think this is going to change over the next few years as different initiatives take off. By the way have you tried X Beyond the Frontier 2 or X3 which have Linux versions. The main problem is that the OpenGL performance and drivers are way off their Windows equivalents in terms of performance. The gap is reducing fast but until the experience can be equal Games companies won't develop for it, and they define the industry at present.
Some games companies though who require an online experience though are using Linux and OSS to drive this. See Second Life. Tribes. I have been promising George EACOSS for a long time (sorry) that we should put together some lug ideas and showcase them in real life. I think we as the lug are need to put stuff together meet, chat swap idea's and really generate a groundswell of interest. Effende's serve a mean metzi plate and have a projector? We have Ubuntu HH due in 6 days! Anyway a oft quoted idea? Simon ----- Original Message ----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, 18 April 2008 10:17:57 o'clock GMT +03:00 Kuwait / Riyadh Subject: LUG Digest, Vol 44, Issue 13 Send LUG mailing list submissions to [email protected] To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can reach the person managing the list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of LUG digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: OS X on a PC (Niles Collins) 2. Re: OS X on a PC (andrew colin) 3. Re: OS X on a PC (Niles Collins) 4. RE: OS X on a PC (Sanga M. Collins) 5. ICTs: Is your wealth a click away? - Reminder (Milton Aineruhanga) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:09:53 -0400 From: "Niles Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LUG] OS X on a PC To: "Linux Users Group Uganda" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I also agree with that point. Youngsters can be introduced to linux because you can accomplish most daily tasks on desktop linux. You don't need expensive hardware since linux will run on your toaster if you put in some work. Also you can get together and translate linux to all the various languages spoken in Africa. I think Windows only has Kiswahili as a option. I don't want to preach the same points that most of you probably already know. I have been using desktop linux as my regular home computer and as my workstation at my job, and i have almost got to the point where i don't need a windows computer anymore. I only have one to play games on. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/lug/attachments/20080417/33905844/attachment.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 20:45:54 +0200 From: "andrew colin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LUG] OS X on a PC To: "Linux Users Group Uganda" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Sanga M. Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Very good point about the 'usage scenarios' I have several Linux > computers, and apart from nagios netmon, on one of my servers, and > Netscreen security manager on another server, Strange, I cant find anything else > to do with Linux so my Linux laptop is gathering dust. I get along so well with out M$ have not used it in years close to 5 if i can remember so i dont understand what you are talking about As for games what are games consoles for if you want to play games on your laptop. > > > Sanga M. Collins > Network Engineering > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > IT Management LLC > 6491 Sunset Strip #5, > Sunrise Fl, 33313 > Tel: (954) 572 7411, > Fax: (435) 578 7411 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > > > Of Muhumuza Brian > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 11:16 AM > To: Linux Users Group Uganda > Subject: Re: [LUG] OS X on a PC > > The way i see it, MUK students & people in Uganda in general don't > use Linux because its usage scenarios are very few -- as one of the > many possible reasons. > > Linux is an excellent server os, and this is said in all linux > classes. A linux class is not complete without the "Linux Server > Usage" scenario (HTTP, FTP, SSH, DNS, DHCP, Mail, etc). > > I wonder how many linux students get to deploy a linux server outside > the class room. > > I also wonder how many tech guys in Uganda can say they *personally* > have a server on the internet -- an excellent linux usage scenario. > If it were cheap to put a computer onto the public internet, that > would be big potential for linux deployments. > > We need to create many more linux usage scenarios if we want people > to use it. Probably it's the way linux is taught. All linux classes > focus on the server aspect of linux which, unfortunately isn't within > the usage scope of most people *even* those that go to MUK Faculty of > Computing. > > On 16 Apr 2008, at 09:00, Reinier Battenberg wrote: > > > Hi P. > > > > Maybe we should discuss why MUK students are not using linux. After > > all this > > is the LUG (not the AUG ;-) > > > > When we went to the presentation of the third year students last > > year we saw a > > lot of php/mysql applications. These just run and install much > > nicer on > > linux. That, in a normal world, would be a benifit for the students. > > > > As MUK is preparing students for the real world, and in the real > > world, php & > > mysql applications run on linux & apache mostly, training students > > in that > > setup is also not a bad idea. > > > > Well, i am preaching for my own church (and the AUG guys) again. > > > > Is there anything we can do to make that clear to MUK tutors & > > students? > > > > rgds, > > reinier > > > > > >> MB > > > _______________________________________________ > LUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any > way. > --------------------------------------- > > > _______________________________________________ > LUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). The List's Host is not responsible for them in any way. > --------------------------------------- > > -- "Dru" To follow the path, look to the master, follow the master, walk with the master, see through the master, become the master. (zen) http://www.topdog.za.net/ ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:59:44 -0400 From: "Niles Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [LUG] OS X on a PC To: "Linux Users Group Uganda" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Console games are great in their own respect. But i find PC games are a richer experience. The mods and community for PC games are what keeps me coming back. And users still play old PC games, once a console falls a generation behind good luck finding games for it. I look at OSS projects like Open Transport Tycoon as a way to get younger kids into Linux. Once they figure out that they can create their own content and share it amongst their peers. But their need to be more OSS games for this to happen. I feel an OSS football game would be the best ice breaker. It would definitely hold children's interest. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://orion.kym.net/pipermail/lug/attachments/20080417/e2760ac7/attachment.html ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:14:31 -0400 From: "Sanga M. Collins" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [LUG] OS X on a PC To: "Linux Users Group Uganda" <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sometimes this forum makes me wonder. Its seems like I pissed of a moderator or something so my posts need to be attacked. Anyways I have a troll hat somewhere I haven't used in a while so here goes. Andrew: what is strange about the uses I have for my Linux servers? I really don't have any uses for my Linux laptop. All the software I use at home cant run on Linux so I have an IMac. I guess I "get along without MS too!" As far as games go, not everything is released on consoles. I do have an xbox 360 (that I play to death), but last time I check there was no world of warcraft or homeworld 2, so when im sitting in heathrow airport waiting 10 hours for my connecting flight to kampala, I might want to play a few games on my laptop .... but ohh wait I cant coz its Ubuntu ... I guess I can try and deploy apache with php a few times and hopefully time will fly by. So this thread was about getting people into the Linux fold. I posted my experiences, and it seems that my experiences are now the subject of the thread. Ive tried to get back to the original topic, and ignored the other useless responses, but to no avail. Sanga M. Collins Network Engineering ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ IT Management LLC 6491 Sunset Strip #5, Sunrise Fl, 33313 Tel: (954) 572 7411, Fax: (435) 578 7411 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of andrew colin Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 2:46 PM To: Linux Users Group Uganda Subject: Re: [LUG] OS X on a PC On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 5:31 PM, Sanga M. Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Very good point about the 'usage scenarios' I have several Linux > computers, and apart from nagios netmon, on one of my servers, and > Netscreen security manager on another server, Strange, I cant find anything else > to do with Linux so my Linux laptop is gathering dust. I get along so well with out M$ have not used it in years close to 5 if i can remember so i dont understand what you are talking about As for games what are games consoles for if you want to play games on your laptop. > > > Sanga M. Collins > Network Engineering > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > IT Management LLC > 6491 Sunset Strip #5, > Sunrise Fl, 33313 > Tel: (954) 572 7411, > Fax: (435) 578 7411 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > > > Of Muhumuza Brian > Sent: Thursday, April 17, 2008 11:16 AM > To: Linux Users Group Uganda > Subject: Re: [LUG] OS X on a PC > > The way i see it, MUK students & people in Uganda in general don't > use Linux because its usage scenarios are very few -- as one of the > many possible reasons. > > Linux is an excellent server os, and this is said in all linux > classes. A linux class is not complete without the "Linux Server > Usage" scenario (HTTP, FTP, SSH, DNS, DHCP, Mail, etc). > > I wonder how many linux students get to deploy a linux server outside > the class room. > > I also wonder how many tech guys in Uganda can say they *personally* > have a server on the internet -- an excellent linux usage scenario. > If it were cheap to put a computer onto the public internet, that > would be big potential for linux deployments. > > We need to create many more linux usage scenarios if we want people > to use it. Probably it's the way linux is taught. All linux classes > focus on the server aspect of linux which, unfortunately isn't within > the usage scope of most people *even* those that go to MUK Faculty of > Computing. > > On 16 Apr 2008, at 09:00, Reinier Battenberg wrote: > > > Hi P. > > > > Maybe we should discuss why MUK students are not using linux. After > > all this > > is the LUG (not the AUG ;-) > > > > When we went to the presentation of the third year students last > > year we saw a > > lot of php/mysql applications. These just run and install much > > nicer on > > linux. That, in a normal world, would be a benifit for the students. > > > > As MUK is preparing students for the real world, and in the real > > world, php & > > mysql applications run on linux & apache mostly, training students > > in that > > setup is also not a bad idea. > > > > Well, i am preaching for my own church (and the AUG guys) again. > > > > Is there anything we can do to make that clear to MUK tutors & > > students? > > > > rgds, > > reinier > > > > > >> MB > > > _______________________________________________ > LUG mailing list > [email protected] > http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > %LUG is generously hosted by INFOCOM http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > > The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them (including > attachments if any). 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