Hi Chris,

Not sure that was what I wanted to hear. 

Second alternative I have is buying an APC batterypack for the RS1500. That 
would give me 15 more minute which is enough time for the gennie to kick in.

Does anyone know a place in town where they would have something advanced as 
this battery pack?

http://www.apc.com/resource/include/techspec_index.cfm?base_sku=BR24BP


(looking at the instruction manuals for the 2 UPSs i have, i just dont see how 
I am going to fit the batteries together.)

rgds,

Reinier Battenberg
Director
Mountbatten Ltd.
+256 782 801 749
www.mountbatten.net

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On Tuesday 22 September 2009 14:45:35 Chris Wilson wrote:
> Hi Reinier,
>
> On Tue, 22 Sep 2009, Reinier Battenberg wrote:
> > I have apcupsd running as a deamon and the system will in worst cases
> > shutdown when there is X amount of time left in the batteries. The BIOS
> > is configured to start up when power returns. Problem is: when power
> > returns while the system is shutting down, the system seems to stay off.
> > The BIOS never gets an event, so just shuts down the computer. Shutting
> > down takes about 3 minutes, which is quite a lot. So, first question,
> > how do you tell a shutting down machine that power is back, and it is
> > not shutting down anymore, but rebooting?
>
> You need to use a UPS daemon that can tell the UPS to initiate a timed
> (delayed) shutdown, and that does this automatically when it initiates a
> software shutdown. This will cause the UPS to force a power cycle of the
> server, bringing it back online. NUT does this, for example.
>
> > Secondly, we dont want these reboots. I can't buy an inverter with
> > proper batteries, so I bought a second UPS ( RS 1500) , and placed it in
> > series with the first one. Its a bit cheaper, so i placed it before the
> > SmartUPS, and keep that one connected to the server over USB (and AC).
> >
> > This new UPS is not doing its job. If power goes off, it does switch to
> > batteries, but the Smart UPS that it is feeding in to, immediatly
> > switches to batteries, too.
>
> Chaining UPSes is generally considered a bad idea. APC recommends against
> it. Most likely, the power quality emitted by the first UPS is not enough
> to satisfy the second that the mains power is OK, so the second switches
> to battery too.
>
> > I ran a few tests:
> >
> > With a disconnected RS1500 (no AC in)
> > - Connect the RS1500 to a moniter, and the monitor works.
> > - Connect the RS1500 to the second power-unit of the server. The led
> > light on the server goes on, but on the server-side the power cable makes
> > a funny sizzling noise.
>
> Nice :) Probably the server's PSU has little or no PFC and so its current
> draw is not proportional to voltage, causing a huge inductor in the UPS to
> vibrate violently (and eventually self-destruct or tear itself off the
> motherboard).
>
> > - Connect the RS1500 to the Smart-UPS, the smart-UPS does not charge from
> > the RS1500 batteries, and you do hear the sizzling sound on the Smart-UPS
> > side. Also, the Smart-UPS indicates it has lost its power-source and it
> > is running from batteries.
> > - The orange LED is lit on the RS1500, which means, we are on battery
> > now. There is no indication there is an overload.
>
> That's because the Smart-UPS is not pulling any power from it.
>
> > Plug the RS1500 in the grid
> > - Light goes green, and the sizzling sound disappears.
> >
> > Question: is my RS1500 actually helping my Smart-UPS to feed the server
> > with power? (and do i just need to add more batteries?) Or do i have a
> > problem?
>
> No and yes.
>
> My advice would be to rip the batteries out of the RS 1500 and chain them
> in parallel with the batteries of the Smart-UPS, by hanging wires out of
> the side of the UPS case.
>
> Cheers, Chris.


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