The most important reason to use anything else than vi is that you can do 
step-by-step debugging with the more advanced tools. 

Developing code without a debugger is like, well, not so efficient.


-- 
rgds,

Reinier Battenberg
Director
Mountbatten Ltd.
+256 758 801 749
www.mountbatten.net



On Tuesday 21 September 2010 13:00:29 Tim Schofield wrote:
> On 21 September 2010 10:22, mugisha moses <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 21, 2010 at 11:28 AM, Tim Schofield <[email protected]>
> > 
> > wrote:
> >> The choice of code editor is a very personal thing. Everybody has
> >> their own requirements.
> > 
> > It may be a personal thing but a developer can only be as productive as
> > the tolls he or she uses.  Developing an IDE is not an easy task
> > (eclipse took like $200 mil to develop) . i think maybe its about what
> > you are doing . if you want just a text editor you can stick with "other
> > tools"  but if you really want an Integrated Development Environment
> > ....then Eclipse is the best open source tool for python
> > development........
> 
> Well the reason this subject causes so many arguments is that each
> developer has their own needs. For instance I hate code completion. I
> know how to code I don't want my editor telling me how to code. Its
> just a distraction to me. But thats just my personal feeling, I know
> many developers who love code completion.
> 
> >> Personally I hate eclipse. I find it slow and bloated. I once brought
> >> this up with an eclipse developer who told me to buy a better
> >> computer.
> >> 
> >> Buy a better computer to run a glorified text editor!!
> > 
> > Eclipse only gets slow and blotted when you try to install all the
> > plugins that exist....  its a balance ...cut what you dont need and
> > leave what you need and you get the best ide ever conceived...  and
> > Eclipse is an IDE not just a text editor...
> 
> As far as scripting languages go, IDE is just the name developers give
> code editors when they get bloated :-)
> 
> When the initial IDE's were developed the idea was to integrate the
> compiler into the editor, doesn't really apply to scripted languages.
> 
> >> Over the years many people have told me that I should learn emacs or
> >> vi. Why should I have to "learn" a code editor. I just want to write
> >> code.
> > 
> > Productivity ... Productivity ..Productivity ...Every developer knows
> > that key strokes are way faster than moving a cursor around the screen.
> > if you want to save yourself precious minutes (life is short) ....then
> > you have to spend some painful time learning elisp...in the end its
> > worth it...because you can basically do anything in emacs without using
> > the slow mouse ....even check mail
> 
> I agree, you manage to use eclipse without a mouse?
> 
> >> For about the last year I have been using a modified version of Geany
> >> (http://www.geany.org) as my editor, but its by no means perfect, but
> >> the best I have found so far.
> > 
> > unless i were actively developing it;  i would never use a product still
> > at 0.1 ...thats too young  few users and lots of bugs
> 
> well thats your personal view. I like to help open source projects
> that show promise to grow. Geany has a lot of users, and a sizeable
> following. Projects don't get into the major distro repositories if
> they are as full of bugs and as unusable as you seem to believe Geany
> is. Take my advice, never go by version numbers on open source
> projects, they are a very unreliable way of finding out about them.
> 
> >> IMHO
> >> 
> >> thanks
> >> Tim
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