Hi,

it has all been tried and discussed. Eventually, cavins behaviour scares 
people who are far more interesting than cavin away.

Even if this cavin is not the cavin, he called someone a bitch, which is in 
violation with the rules, so you get kicked off.

I think we did give him another chance (this is the 3d time he is kicked), so 
next time he reports himself, i suggest we remove him immediately to prevent 
any newbies from getting into a useless argument that spoils the list.

rgds,
reinier


On Saturday, January 07, 2012 04:02:01 PM Benjamin Tayehanpour wrote:
> I suppose I should have some blame for being easily inflamed by him, giving
> him incentive to continue. My apologies; I will proceed to ignore him in
> the future.
> 
> In fact, isn't that a fairly good solution to the Cavin problem? Just
> ignore him?
> 
> On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 3:58 PM, Sanga Collins 
<[email protected]>wrote:
> > In every society I think there can't be good with out evil. In the lug
> > we
> > can't call ourselves intelligent civilized Linux loving nerds with out
> > the cavins.
> > 
> > He just doesn't need to prove it every two weeks
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> > On Jan 7, 2012, at 9:54 AM, Mike Barnard <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > Well, the email address is his, unless you suggest someone is spoofing
> > posts to LUG as Cavin.
> > 
> > I wonder why this ONLY happens with Cavin. Why can't you have some
> > degree
> > of respect for people on this list? Why is it that you always come forth
> > as foul and vile and one who stirs up chaos for the sake of it?
> > 
> > Why is it that when someone disagrees with Cavin,out comes the foulness?
> > 
> > I think we can live on the LUG list without all this. Cavin, you can
> > surely express yourself better than this and contribute better to the
> > list.> 
> > On 7 January 2012 17:37, Sanga Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Hi guys.
> >> 
> >> I do t think this is cavin. I read earlier posts of his and the new
> >> insults and the English and grammar is differnt. Unless he is in the
> >> middle of drinking while posting (highly illegal) I suspect and
> >> imposter LOLOL
> >> 
> >> Plus cavin is quick to produce evidence when he/she has is
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> 
> >> On Jan 7, 2012, at 9:21 AM, "Stephen S. Musoke" <[email protected]>
> >> 
> >> wrote:
> >> > Reinier/Kyle/Kiggs,
> >> > 
> >> > I would like to play the devils advocate and request that you
> >> > leave
> >> 
> >> Cavin on
> >> 
> >> > the list, because it is a badge of honor each time you remove him.
> >> 
> >> Therefore
> >> 
> >> > whenever he gets back he has to insult all in order to get
> >> > attention
> >> > 
> >> > Cavin - while you may have been aggrieved for one reason or
> >> > another, I
> >> > suggest that you play nice as there is a community out there, and
> >> > each
> >> 
> >> time
> >> 
> >> > you write on the list over 1000 people receive an email, so just
> >> > watch
> >> 
> >> what
> >> 
> >> > u say and play nice with the rest of us in the playground.
> >> > 
> >> > What say ye?
> >> > 
> >> > Just my $0.02.
> >> > 
> >> > Stephen
> >> > 
> >> > -----Original Message-----
> >> > From: Reinier Battenberg
> >> > [mailto:[email protected]]
> >> > Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 4:54 PM
> >> > To: Uganda Linux User Group
> >> > Subject: Re: [LUG] Why Droid sucks
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > Kyle or Kiggs,
> >> > 
> >> > I think it is time again to protect Cavin from the damage he is
> >> > doing
> >> 
> >> to his
> >> 
> >> > public profile.
> >> > 
> >> > Could you kindly remove Cavin again?
> >> > 
> >> > rgds,
> >> > reinier
> >> > 
> >> > On Saturday, January 07, 2012 07:58:21 AM Mugarura Cavin wrote:
> >> >> despicable my foot,
> >> >> bitch, you havent responded to anything i have asked u what
> >> >> cheap ass
> >> >> phone do u have ?
> >> >> 
> >> >> i hope it didnt cost u $50 bucks, just hoping
> >> >> 
> >> >> excuse my french
> >> >> 
> >> >> 2012/1/7 [email protected]
> >> >> <[email protected]>
> >> >> 
> >> >>> ** Hypocrite.
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> You say you are entitled to your opinion. And yes, of course
> >> >>> you are. With practically the same breath, you accuse anyone
> >> >>> with even slightly different views of short memory, myopism,
> >> >>> mental illnesses...
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> I have nothing more to say to you. Either this is all a big
> >> >>> joke you
> >> >>> are pulling, and then there is simply no point; or you're
> >> >>> serious,
> >> >>> in which case you truly are as despicable as you appear.
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> Good day, Sir.
> >> >>> 
> >> >>> --
> >> >>> Skickat från min Android-telefon med K-9 E-post. Ursäkta min
> >> 
> >> fåordighet.
> >> 
> >> >>> Mugarura Cavin <[email protected]> skrev:
> >> >>>> very good point,
> >> >>>> thats why we have different names, its just a fact of life,
> >> >>>> in my
> >> >>>> view Droid sucks, in your view, it rocks,
> >> >>>> 
> >> >>>> and again, am entitled to my opinion, its not the gospel, if
> >> >>>> u
> >> >>>> think Droid doesnt suck, feel free to prove me  wrong, prove
> >> >>>> that
> >> >>>> the battery life is good, because that was one of the
> >> >>>> issue's i
> >> >>>> raised, well u can say, the battery life lasts long if u do
> >> >>>> a.b.c,
> >> >>>> u will get more bang for the buck,>>  but 99% of the users,
> >> >>>> wont
> >> >>>> have the skills to do a,b,c
> >> >>>> 
> >> >>>> and all holds barred, am always looking out for the common
> >> >>>> man, not
> >> >>>> the Johney comely lately, like u
> >> >>>> 
> >> >>>> 
> >> >>>> 
> >> >>>> 
> >> >>>> 
> >> >>>> 2012/1/7 [email protected]
> >> >>>> <[email protected]>
> >> >>>> 
> >> >>>>> ** Thing is, you don't offer any constructive criticism.
> >> >>>>> Almost
> >> >>>>> every single point you have been trying to make evaluates
> >> >>>>> to
> >> >>>>> "Android sucks, and I'm not about to tell anyone any
> >> >>>>> specifics. If
> >> >>>>> they ask anything about what I just wrote, I'll just
> >> >>>>> insult then a
> >> >>>>> bit and hope they stop."
> >> >>>>> 
> >> >>>>> Also, I'd take open source "crap" over closed source gold
> >> >>>>> anytime.
> >> >>>>> Because gold isn't valuable to everyone, but the crap you
> >> >>>>> could
> >> >>>>> turn into anything you'd like as long as it is open
> >> >>>>> source.
> >> >>>>> 
> >> >>>>> --
> >> >>>>> Skickat från min Android-telefon med K-9 E-post. Ursäkta
> >> >>>>> min
> >> >>>>> 
> >> >>>>> fåordighet.>>> Mugarura Cavin <[email protected]> skrev:
> >> >>>>>> Just unrelated, but it might help u understand a few
> >> >>>>>> things U
> >> >>>>>> might not understand it, but just maybe, i dont lose
> >> >>>>>> hope easily
> >> >>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>> I used to criticize Drupal, but right now, I tell anyone
> >> >>>>>> who
> >> >>>>>> cares to listen, that Drupal is one of the best open
> >> >>>>>> source CMS
> >> >>>>>> (actually in my view the best) and i have contributed a
> >> >>>>>> few
> >> >>>>>> modules,
> >> >>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>> The point am might trying to make, is that if something
> >> >>>>>> is bad,
> >> >>>>>> its bad, plain simple no sugar coating,
> >> >>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>> but one day, I will gloat and gloss, and claim that
> >> >>>>>> everything
> >> >>>>>> open source is the holy grail and that day will come
> >> >>>>>> soon, when
> >> >>>>>> am no longer breathing (and in Heaven Insha Allah)
> >> >>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>> 2012/1/7 [email protected]
> >> >>>>>> <[email protected]>
> >> >>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>> I'm not sure how to perceive any of your Android
> >> >>>>>>> rants. Only
> >> >>>>>>> that you seem to have some pretty rickety phones down
> >> >>>>>>> in Uganda,
> >> >>>>>>> because the droid phones in Sweden sure as hell do not
> >> >>>>>>> suck
> >> >>>>>>> anywhere near the way you describe it.
> >> >>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>> Oh, and many complaints I hear from you all are easily
> >> >>>>>>> remedied
> >> >>>>>>> with installing a different app. That's the whole
> >> >>>>>>> *point* with
> >> >>>>>>> Android. Don't like the standard text messaging app?
> >> >>>>>>> Install a
> >> >>>>>>> better one! Don't like the keyboard? Install another
> >> >>>>>>> one!
> >> >>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>> You completely missing the point does not make Android
> >> >>>>>>> suck.
> >> >>>>>>> Android
> >> >>>>>>> is not iOS. The Apple devices deliver an
> >> >>>>>>> out-of-the-box
> >> >>>>>>> experience at the cost of killing customisation
> >> >>>>>>> capabilities.
> >> >>>>>>> Android is 100%* customisable. As a side effect, the
> >> >>>>>>> default
> >> >>>>>>> apps naturally suck, to varying degrees.
> >> >>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>> Geez, am I really on the Linux User Group mailing
> >> >>>>>>> list? Because
> >> >>>>>>> you all sound like the Windows Luser Group or
> >> >>>>>>> something. Where's
> >> >>>>>>> your spirit of open source? Of coding? Of hacking?
> >> >>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>> *(Yes, 100%; you could even throw out Android
> >> >>>>>>> completely and
> >> >>>>>>> install Debian or Ångström or any other ARM-supporting
> >> >>>>>>> Linux
> >> >>>>>>> distribution, and Android wouldn't even try to stop
> >> >>>>>>> you. You'd
> >> >>>>>>> probably have a hard time with device drivers, but the
> >> >>>>>>> point is
> >> >>>>>>> Android doesn't try to prevent you out of spite,
> >> >>>>>>> whereas you
> >> >>>>>>> would have to jailbreak an Apple device before being
> >> >>>>>>> able to do
> >> >>>>>>> anything useful on it.)
> >> >>>>>>> --
> >> >>>>>>> Skickat från min Android-telefon med K-9 E-post.
> >> >>>>>>> Ursäkta min
> >> >>>>>>> fåordighet.
> >> >>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>> Sanga Collins <[email protected]> skrev:
> >> >>>>>>>> In the states the android and iPhone are the same
> >> >>>>>>>> cost. 200$
> >> >>>>>>>> plus 2 year contract. That argument does not compute
> >> >>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
> >> >>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>> On Jan 7, 2012, at 2:48 AM, Mwirima Byaruhanga
> >> >>>>>>>> <[email protected]>
> >> > 
> >> > wrote:
> >> >>>>>>>>> Mugarura Cavin wrote thus on 1/7/12 5:57 AM:
> >> >>>>>>>>>> Lug,
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>>> I will be compiling a list of why Droid sucks my
> >> >>>>>>>>>> first smart
> >> >>>>>>>>>> phone was an LG Prada, way ahead of its time so
> >> >>>>>>>>>> recently i
> >> >>>>>>>>>> ditched my iphone for an LG G2x, to explore how
> >> >>>>>>>>>> good the
> >> >>>>>>>>>> android platform is
> >> >>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>> Before delving deep into your rants, I'll propose
> >> >>>>>>>>> a very
> >> >>>>>>>>> simple (to put it better, simplistic) approach
> >> >>>>>>>>> reasoning:
> >> >>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>> I'll use one parameter: _Cost_ .
> >> >>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>> Your iPhone4S, here in our dusty streets of
> >> >>>>>>>>> Kampala, will set
> >> >>>>>>>>> you
> >> >>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>> back approx 2.4m (
> >> >>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>> give or
> >> >>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>> take 200k)
> >> >>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>> I have seen an LG Optimus on Wilson Road for about
> >> >>>>>>>>> 1m.
> >> >>>>>>>>> 
> >> >>>>>>>>> How can you expect a device of 1m to outperform
> >> >>>>>>>>> that of 2.5m
> >> >>>>>>>>> in
> >> >>>>>>>>> *any* respect ?
> >> >>>>>>>> 
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> > 
> > Of course, you might discount this possibility, but remember that one in
> > a million chances happen 99% of the time.
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