You said that you *record* everything. Logging is something completely different, and not unethical. Recording entails keeping a copy of all traffic; logging merely entails keeping a log file listing what kind of data has gone where and when, but not the actual contents. Most routers *log * the traffic, but they do not *record* it.
On 23 May 2012 09:27, Sanga Collins <[email protected]> wrote: > Why is it un ethical? You work in our office using our computers handling > patient medical information and financial data. The govt mandates we keep a > 'paper trail' of everything coming and going. We also clearly state in the > terms of employment that all Internet traffic is monitored. > > Don't see the unethical part. > > Besides most routers and networking equipment log all traffic anyway. > > Sent from my mobile device > > On May 23, 2012, at 9:19 AM, Victor van Reijswoud < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > +1 > > > > > > On Wed, May 23, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Benjamin Tayehanpour > > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Recording traffic is even worse than outright blocking it, from an > ethical > >> point of view. It's quite fun, though :) > >> > >> > >> On 22 May 2012 16:09, Sanga Collins <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> We don't block apps or websites we haut record everything. HR has new > >>> employees sign terms of use. If they are violated the employee is > >>> terminated. Use of proxies or circumvention techniques counts as 2 > >>> violations. Leaving 1 violation for termination. > >>> > >>> Each year your violations reset to zero and all cases are investigated > >>> since spam, spyware or viruses can also cause traffic to be recorded > that is > >>> not allowed. > >>> > >>> Btw we allow far book twitter and social networking sites. But if you > >>> spend majority of your day 'networking' then that counts as a > violation :) > >>> > >>> Sent from my mobile device > >>> > >>> On May 22, 2012, at 4:02 PM, erias swraggy <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>>> I think its a total waste of time especially with the existence and > >>>> free use of Bennett Haselton's circumventors such as > >>>> https://jellykey.info/ and many more others. > >>>> > >>>> On 5/22/12, Victor van Reijswoud <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>>>> Indeed OT but interesting. From a technical perspective blocking is > >>>>> easy, but from a human perspective this is more difficult. I created > a > >>>>> very bad situation when I first blocked FB in an organisation (on > >>>>> request of the management). Blocking working hours was the solution > >>>>> (interesting to see how many people liked to stay after working > >>>>> hours). > >>>>> > >>>>> What about blocking hotmail, gmail and other freemail when all people > >>>>> have office mail? I tend to block these as well in office hours. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Kyle Spencer <[email protected]> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> Hi Joseph, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> This is slightly OT, but I've always been of the opinion that -- in > >>>>>> general > >>>>>> -- business networks shouldn't blacklist content. There's a few > >>>>>> reasons > >>>>>> for > >>>>>> this: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 1) Blacklisting applications and websites quickly (and inevitably) > >>>>>> becomes > >>>>>> a > >>>>>> wild goose chase. New sites, services, and workarounds pop up all > the > >>>>>> time > >>>>>> and your users will find them (unless you white-list). If bandwidth > >>>>>> is > >>>>>> your > >>>>>> concern, just implement per-host throttling. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 2) Office Internet connections are many people's only access to the > >>>>>> Internet > >>>>>> in Uganda. Therefore, I believe we should ensure they have access > to > >>>>>> the > >>>>>> full (undiluted) experience. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 3) People need mental down-time in order to be fully productive. If > >>>>>> my > >>>>>> staff are doing their jobs well, why should I care if they browse > >>>>>> Facebook > >>>>>> or watch Youtube videos from time-to-time? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> 4) This is ultimately an HR/management issue, not a technical one. > If > >>>>>> your > >>>>>> staff spend all of their time on Facebook and Youtube, the problem > is > >>>>>> the > >>>>>> behavior and not the sites themselves. If you simply ban Facebook > and > >>>>>> Youtube, your staff will find something else to waste their time on. > >>>>>> It's > >>>>>> better to focus your efforts on finding ways to inspire a strong > >>>>>> work-ethic > >>>>>> in your staff -- ideally through an atmosphere of trust (see items > #1, > >>>>>> #2, > >>>>>> and #3). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards, > >>>>>> Kyle Spencer > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Tue, May 22, 2012 at 11:28 AM, KIYINI JOSEPH <[email protected]> > >>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I Dont think we all use these but,...................... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/10things/the-top-10-apps-being-blacklisted-in-the-enterprise/3228?tag=mantle_skin;content > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> KyaiJoe > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: > >>>>>>> [email protected] > >>>>>>> Mailing list archives: > http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ > >>>>>>> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug > >>>>>>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: > >>>>>>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them > >>>>>>> (including > >>>>>>> attachments if any). 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