Yes, I am that good. No, of course not :) but properly configured, a server finds its way back online on its own when something unexpected happens. I simply let my scripts do that work, then SSHd in through the backup line and did the rest. That takes care of ~98% of all more serious issues.
On 2 July 2012 17:22, Edmonds Namasenda <[email protected]> wrote: > Benjamin, did you SSH in with the NIC down?! > > # Edmonds > > > On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Benjamin Tayehanpour < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> iv) SSH in and do it your own bloody self, through the command line. I've >> experienced similar things when on the bus, and I simply SSHd in with my >> phone and fixed it. >> >> >> On 2 July 2012 17:15, sanga collins <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I have the script (human script) for directing a highschool gradute to >>> find the network icon on any windows system with minimal fuss. Its even >>> part of our training for new employees. >>> >>> Take this scenario: Its monday morning @ 815am and i have just begun my >>> hour long commute to work. The client is 1800 miles away. They lost power >>> over the weekend and now no one can login, print, or open network shares. I >>> have 3 choices >>> >>> i) drive straight to the airport and try and get on standby flight >>> ii) Hang up with the client and try and call a few companies in their >>> area for quotes on getting a tech on site. >>> iii) MY favorite; Have the receptionist, office manager, or maintenance >>> man. Login to the server desktop open a browser and check if internet is >>> working. print a test page and create a txt doc on the file share. Then >>> finally reboot the server and everyone is back online before the traffic >>> light i am sitting at turns green. >>> >>> The desktop has its place ... even in a server, thats why the option is >>> there to install it. All our client Domain controllers are zentyal, the >>> desktop is a default part of the install. >>> >>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Benjamin Tayehanpour < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> ...you let a receptionist touch a server? Dude, stop digging! >>>> >>>> If I am correct in presuming you are also running the DE locally and >>>> don't do some clever X11 forwarding magic... Seriously? You put in an extra >>>> piece of hardware with direct access to memory (== greater potential for >>>> system crashing if it fails), insert an extra module into the kernel (same >>>> thing, with a far higher error rate) and you run the behemoth that is X and >>>> Gnome of all things, wasting prestanda and energy while making the whole >>>> system less stable? >>>> >>>> Also, I find it far easier to instruct an uninitiated person in >>>> copy-pasting some commands than to look for a yellow triangle with >>>> sawed-off ends and double click... No, double click... A bit faster... >>>> There you go. Now find the icon called "Networking"... Yeah, I'll wait... >>>> ... ... What do you mean it's not there, it must be there, I f***ing left >>>> it there (last part not said out loud)... Et cetera. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2 July 2012 17:00, sanga collins <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I do and i am proud to do it!! >>>>> >>>>> In my experience the desktop on the server comes in very handy. Has >>>>> saved me from numerous disasters and its easy to walk a receptionist >>>>> through fixing her office server over the phone when there is a desktop >>>>> involved (even if the desktop is used to open terminal to type in: service >>>>> ETC restart --ignore-errors) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 9:56 AM, Benjamin Tayehanpour < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Wait, you install a DE on servers? >>>>>> >>>>>> Don't say such things on a public list. No one will hire you if you >>>>>> let something like that be known ;) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 2 July 2012 16:54, sanga collins <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The gui is important. I even install gnome desktop environment on >>>>>>> all my servers. But the command line is still critical for getting >>>>>>> things >>>>>>> done in my day to day activities. I often wish windows dos prompt was as >>>>>>> robust as a linux console is. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> At the end the blogger is right. Nothing that is intended for the >>>>>>> average consumer should force them to do something from the command >>>>>>> line or >>>>>>> console!!! Leave that for the PROS! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 9:49 AM, Richard Obore < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> please guys, don't kill me! >>>>>>>> :-) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> http://linux.slashdot.org/story/12/07/01/218255/has-the-command-line-outstayed-its-welcome >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/ >>>>>>>> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >>>>>>>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them >>>>>>>> (including attachments if any). 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