Especially in FOSS, you have no idea how it might end up.


On 02/22/2013 07:40 PM, Benjamin Tayehanpour wrote:

This is true. It is impossible to say with absolute certainty that something is "useless".

In some situations, however, one could argue that there are more productive ways to invest in the community. The ffmpeg/avconv and cdrecord/wodim affairs come to mind...

On 22 Feb 2013 17:36, "Victor van Reijswoud" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Yes! All efforts to contribute need to be applauded.

    What is 'useless'? For who, for what? Useless today, but what about
    tomorrow? Who is to determine useless/usefulness?

    On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 5:27 PM, Peter C. Ndikuwera
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
    > Hesitant to derail this into a flame-war but should useless
    open-source be
    > applauded just because it's open source? :-)
    >
    > P.
    > --
    > Evolution (n): A hypothetical process whereby infinitely
    improbable events
    > occur with alarming frequency, order arises from chaos, and no
    one is given
    > credit.
    >
    >
    > On 22 February 2013 18:18, Victor van Reijswoud
    > <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
    >>
    >> Everyone who contributes to open source software (big or small)
    should
    >> be encouraged and applauded. It is insulting to even ask the
    question
    >> whether this Acholi translation is useful.
    >>
    >> On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 3:10 PM, Kizito Thomas
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    >> wrote:
    >> > The question is; how people would use it? By the way, is it
    the code in
    >> > acholi or the labels and buttons that are printed in acholi
    but the code
    >> > is
    >> > in another language?
    >> >
    >> > On Feb 22, 2013 4:21 PM, "G.Y. Mukalazi" <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
    >> >>
    >> >> I beg to differ its not a waste of time. I think everything
    has to
    >> >> start
    >> >> from somewhere and the it will spur inspiration to other
    stuff. Now it
    >> >> only
    >> >> makes sense to people who know English and Computer literate
    it will
    >> >> move to
    >> >> other stuff may be Operating systems and so on and Before we
    know It we
    >> >> have
    >> >> Devices that are default to our languages and may be at that
    stage it
    >> >> will
    >> >> make sense to the Locals.
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >>
    >> >> On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Kizito Thomas
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    >> >> wrote:
    >> >>>
    >> >>> I don't know why so but I subscribe to Richard's School of
    thought.
    >> >>> Converting a web browser to a local language might not do
    any effect
    >> >>> to
    >> >>> Internet even coding society minus wasting them time.
    >> >>> I am a Muganda and many Baganda will sign with me, It is
    easier to
    >> >>> write
    >> >>> an English paragraph than a similar Luganda paragraph. Not
    because
    >> >>> Luganda is useless but because we have been brought up to
    study so and
    >> >>> to some people it is called brain washing off our mother
    language.
    >> >>> Now that we have been brain washed already, we only need to
    look
    >> >>> forward.
    >> >>> --
    >> >>> Kind regards
    >> >>> KTM
    >> >>> +256752602550 <tel:%2B256752602550>||+256782062708
    <tel:%2B256782062708>
    >> >>> "Mother of God-Pray for us sinners"
    >> >>>
    >> >>>
    >> >>> On Fri, 2013-02-22 at 13:29 +0300, Jake Markhus wrote:
    >> >>> > Richard,
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> > I think it is easier teaching an English speaking person
    who is also
    >> >>> > fluent in Acholi.
    >> >>> > It also gives the student some comfort and "familiarity".
    A lot of
    >> >>> > the
    >> >>> > controls and menus
    >> >>> > are meant to be intuitive. Translating them helps this.
    Of course if
    >> >>> > you put my browser in
    >> >>> > Acholi/Luganda/Runyankole and I wasn't familiar with the
    settings by
    >> >>> > sight, changing it
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> > back to English would be a pain in the...
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> > Basically the translation is meant to lower the barrier
    to learning
    >> >>> > and use.
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> > James
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> > From: [email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]> [mailto:[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>] On
    >> >>> > Behalf Of Richard Obore
    >> >>> > Sent: Friday, 22 February 2013 13:24
    >> >>> > To: Uganda Linux User Group
    >> >>> > Subject: Re: [LUG] FireFox now in Acholi
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> > My name is Obore, so even though I wish to play devil's
    advocate for
    >> >>> > a
    >> >>> > moment, I hope it is understood that am not against the
    Acholi (my
    >> >>> > ancestors) or any local Ugandan tribe, or even translation...
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> > BUT:
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> > So, Firefox is in Acholi - now what?  Are there any
    websites in
    >> >>> > Acholi?
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> > Is it worth it translating anything to Luganda,
    Runyankore, Lusoga,
    >> >>> > etc?
    >> >>> > (besides sentimental value & proof of concept)
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> > I suspect that most Ugandans who have access to a browser
    plus
    >> >>> > internet connection speak English anyway, don't they?
    >> >>> > (OK, maybe not the Bukedde group, but all others i suppose)
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> > I have no facts to support what i claim - just anecdotal
    evidence.
    >> >>> > But
    >> >>> > am open to your ideas.
    >> >>> > Whats your opinion? Are there any records about
    non-english literacy
    >> >>> > in Uganda?
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> > R.
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> > On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 9:34 AM, Kyle Spencer
    <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    >> >>> > wrote:
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >         Very cool :)
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >         On Feb 20, 2013 12:21 AM, "Mugabi Allan"
    >> >>> >         <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >                 This is incredible, focusing more on
    Local Content
    >> >>> >                 before reaching out to the World.
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >                 --
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >
    _______________________________________________________________________
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >                 Mugabi Allan Kitaka | Google Student
    Ambassador
    >> >>> >                 Lead | Uganda Christian University | Uganda
    >> >>> >                 | +256785225384 <tel:%2B256785225384>
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >
    >> >>> >
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