Thanks a lot James. Sorry my phone just recent the old message. This is helpful info. Slow but steady is good for now. Thanks
On Saturday, 8 October 2016, paul muwanguzi <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks guys, this convo has helped me confirm a lot of ideas that have > been on my mind for a number of years and intensified the past few months. > I believe it's time for the next stage, the government has done a great > deal and is still working on a lot more for the IT infrustructure > establishment and advance in one way or another, (correct me if I'm > wrong) I believe it's up to us now to identify the opportunities this > presents to us, since we have internet access let's think global in terms > of the services we offer. Let's look beyond the continental boundaries and > go beyond. > Once again, thanks a lot Kyle , James plus everyone else that has > contributed. > > On Saturday, 8 October 2016, Kyle Spencer <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > >> Access is not licked, either in terms of cost, capacity, or penetration >> -- but we are on the right track as a country. >> >> However, you are correct to suggest that we now have a sufficiently >> enabling environment to allow for more interesting network content and >> services :) >> >> On Oct 8, 2016 08:44, "James Makumbi" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> And I am saying access is licked! >>> It is done! >>> Let us start talking about leveraging that access and steering new >>> investment into content. >>> Now is the time for local hosting, Data centers and the next things that >>> come with good access. >>> We have challenges such as access to reliable power. If we move from >>> this current "me too" model of investment/innovation >>> I am sure we can get more done. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> James S. K. Makumbi >>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited >>> >>> - Phone: 0783354036 >>> - Mobile: 0790834364 >>> - Website: billable.co.ug >>> - Email: [email protected] >>> >>> <http://facebook.com/jmarkhus> <http://twitter.com/jmakumbi> >>> <http://ug.linkedin.com/in/jmakumbi> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 8 October 2016 at 15:04, Kyle Spencer <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I wasn't suggesting it was a panacea. You asked how infrastructure >>>> sharing and other improvements were benefiting Ugandans. I explained how. >>>> >>>> Remember that people can't even begin to think about content issues if >>>> they can't access networks in the first place (due to lack of availability, >>>> affordability, or whatever reason). >>>> >>>> On Oct 8, 2016 07:59, "James Makumbi" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Kyle, >>>>> >>>>> we always keep coming back to this. Somehow everyone believes "access >>>>> to internet" is a panacea to all our problems. >>>>> What I am asking for is that we do more than give access. There are >>>>> reports and statistics that pretty much show we have access licked. >>>>> We have over 95% coverage of our country. Perhaps now we should talk >>>>> content. We should talk about what we can do with this access. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> James S. K. Makumbi >>>>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited >>>>> >>>>> - Phone: 0783354036 >>>>> - Mobile: 0790834364 >>>>> - Website: billable.co.ug >>>>> - Email: [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> <http://facebook.com/jmarkhus> <http://twitter.com/jmakumbi> >>>>> <http://ug.linkedin.com/in/jmakumbi> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 8 October 2016 at 14:38, Kyle Spencer <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> It has lowered the cost of access, improved performance, and >>>>>> increased reliability. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Oct 8, 2016 07:35, "James Makumbi" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> You have just explained how ISPs use the infrastructure to make >>>>>>> money. >>>>>>> How does that help the average Ugandan? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> James S. K. Makumbi >>>>>>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited >>>>>>> >>>>>>> - Phone: 0783354036 >>>>>>> - Mobile: 0790834364 >>>>>>> - Website: billable.co.ug >>>>>>> - Email: [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <http://facebook.com/jmarkhus> <http://twitter.com/jmakumbi> >>>>>>> <http://ug.linkedin.com/in/jmakumbi> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 8 October 2016 at 14:20, Kyle Spencer <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> James, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Many ISPs use the NBI, BCS, and other fibre cables to reach >>>>>>>> Uganda's borders and upcountry markets. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Perhaps every MNO in the country uses Eaton or ATC for their tower >>>>>>>> infrastructure. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Many MNOs and ISPs use ProjectLink in Kampala/Entebbe/Mukono. The >>>>>>>> UIXP, for example, has at least 5 peers connected via this >>>>>>>> infrastructure. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Kyle Spencer >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2016 07:13, "James Makumbi" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kyle, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> other than setting up the fiber and alleging that it is available, >>>>>>>>> what coutrywide initiative have we seen using it? >>>>>>>>> Between you and me, the NBI to every district office turned out to >>>>>>>>> be a white elephant. >>>>>>>>> I am checking with Gov't heads of IT and I will get back to you on >>>>>>>>> this. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> James S. K. Makumbi >>>>>>>>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> - Phone: 0783354036 >>>>>>>>> - Mobile: 0790834364 >>>>>>>>> - Website: billable.co.ug >>>>>>>>> - Email: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> <http://facebook.com/jmarkhus> <http://twitter.com/jmakumbi> >>>>>>>>> <http://ug.linkedin.com/in/jmakumbi> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 8 October 2016 at 13:53, Kyle Spencer <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> James, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It has been working for the country, not just the companies (and >>>>>>>>>> government, which owns the NBI). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There's more to do, but we have come a long way thanks to >>>>>>>>>> initiatives like these. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> Kyle Spencer >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2016 06:50, "James Makumbi" <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Kyle, I just want the fiber to actually work for the country >>>>>>>>>> instead of for the companies selling it. >>>>>>>>>> Paul, WOW!!! That is massive. I hope someone here can confirm or >>>>>>>>>> refute that. >>>>>>>>>> Maybe the internet price wars have finally began and we might see >>>>>>>>>> a race for the bottom soon. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> James S. K. Makumbi >>>>>>>>>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - Phone: 0783354036 >>>>>>>>>> - Mobile: 0790834364 >>>>>>>>>> - Website: billable.co.ug >>>>>>>>>> - Email: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> <http://facebook.com/jmarkhus> <http://twitter.com/jmakumbi> >>>>>>>>>> <http://ug.linkedin.com/in/jmakumbi> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 8 October 2016 at 13:34, paul muwanguzi < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> That's true Kyle. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> However the reason as to why I asked the above question, is >>>>>>>>>>> because a few days a go I filled in a quationnare that was >>>>>>>>>>> presented to me >>>>>>>>>>> by someone on behalf of zuku . >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Towards the end of the questionnaire was a comparison of >>>>>>>>>>> bandwidth price lists from various ISPs , and I was surprised to >>>>>>>>>>> see zuku >>>>>>>>>>> planning to offer a 40mbps unlimited link at roughly 300,000/- >>>>>>>>>>> UGX . For the home user, that's supposed to cover both Internet and >>>>>>>>>>> pay tv >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thus asking on this platform just in case that figure was simply >>>>>>>>>>> designed for the questionnaire. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In case anyone has anymore info on this, please let me know. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Saturday, 8 October 2016, Kyle Spencer <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> You'll be glad to know that infrastructure sharing is a growing >>>>>>>>>>>> trend in Uganda, and has been for some time (thanks, in part, to >>>>>>>>>>>> government >>>>>>>>>>>> support for the concept). See also: Eaton Towers, ProjectLink, NBI >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Oct 8, 2016 06:14, "James Makumbi" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That is the problem with my country! >>>>>>>>>>>>> We do absolutely nothing together. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone has their own mobile money, their own fiber! If we >>>>>>>>>>>>> were first world, we would probably even have our own standards!!! >>>>>>>>>>>>> There are some things that need to be standardized, controlled >>>>>>>>>>>>> and merged. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> James S. K. Makumbi >>>>>>>>>>>>> Software Developer & CEO, Billable Limited >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Phone: 0783354036 >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Mobile: 0790834364 >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Website: billable.co.ug >>>>>>>>>>>>> - Email: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://facebook.com/jmarkhus> <http://twitter.com/jmakumbi> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://ug.linkedin.com/in/jmakumbi> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 8 October 2016 at 12:01, paul muwanguzi < >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have some conclusive facts on zuku fiber >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bandwidth rates? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from My Cellphone >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Uganda Linux User Group: http://linux.or.ug >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Send messages to this mailing list by addressing e-mails to: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mailing list archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/lu >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mailing list settings: http://kym.net/mailman/listinfo/lug >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe: http://kym.net/mailman/options/lug >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The Uganda LUG mailing list is generously hosted by INFOCOM: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.infocom.co.ug/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> The above comments and data are owned by whoever posted them >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (including attachments if any). 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