You might also try increasing the vfs_cache_pressure.

This will reclaim inode and dentry caches faster. Maybe that's the problem, not page caches.

To be clear - I have no deep insight into Lustre's use of the client cache, but you said you has lots of small files, which if lustre uses the cache system like other filesystems means it may be inodes/dentries. Filling up the page cache with files like you did in your other tests wouldn't have the same effect. Just my guess here.

We had some experience years ago with the opposite sort of problem. We have a big ftp server, and we want to *keep* inode/dentry data in the linux cache, as there are often stupid numbers of files in directories. Files were always flowing through the server, so the page cache would force out the inode cache. Was surprised to find with linux there's no ability to set a fixed inode cache size - the best you can do is "suggest" with the cache pressure tunable.

Scott

On 8/23/2013 6:29 AM, Dragseth Roy Einar wrote:
I tried to change swapiness from 0 to 95 but it did not have any impact on the
system overhead.

r.


On Thursday 22. August 2013 15.38.37 Dragseth Roy Einar wrote:
No, I cannot detect any swap activity on the system.

r.

On Thursday 22. August 2013 09.21.33 you wrote:
Is this slowdown due to increased swap activity?  If "yes", then try
lowering the "swappiness" value.  This will sacrifice buffer cache space
to
lower swap activity.

Take a look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swappiness.

Roger S.

On 08/22/2013 08:51 AM, Roy Dragseth wrote:
We have just discovered that a large buffer cache generated from
traversing a lustre file system will cause a significant system overhead
for applications with high memory demands.  We have seen a 50% slowdown
or worse for applications.  Even High Performance Linpack, that have no
file IO whatsoever is affected.  The only remedy seems to be to empty
the
buffer cache from memory by running "echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches"

Any hints on how to improve the situation is greatly appreciated.


System setup:
Client: Dual socket Sandy Bridge, with 32GB ram and infiniband
connection
to lustre server.  CentOS 6.4, with kernel 2.6.32-358.11.1.el6.x86_64
and
lustre v2.1.6 rpms downloaded from whamcloud download site.

Lustre: 1 MDS and 4 OSS running Lustre 2.1.3 (also from whamcloud site).
Each OSS has 12 OST, total 1.1 PB storage.

How to reproduce:

Traverse the lustre file system until the buffer cache is large enough.
In our case we run

   find . -print0 -type f | xargs -0 cat > /dev/null

on the client until the buffer cache reaches ~15-20GB.  (The lustre file
system has lots of small files so this takes up to an hour.)

Kill the find process and start a single node parallel application, we
use
HPL (high performance linpack).  We run on all 16 cores on the system
with 1GB ram per core (a normal run should complete in appr. 150
seconds.)  The system monitoring shows a 10-20% system cpu overhead and
the HPL run takes more than 200 secs.  After running "echo 3 >
/proc/sys/vm/drop_caches" the system performance goes back to normal
with
a run time at 150 secs.

I've created an infographic from our ganglia graphs for the above
scenario.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/23468442/misc/lustre_bc_overhead.png

Attached is an excerpt from perf top indicating that the kernel routine
taking the most time is _spin_lock_irqsave if that means anything to
anyone.


Things tested:

It does not seem to matter if we mount lustre over infiniband or
ethernet.

Filling the buffer cache with files from an NFS filesystem does not
degrade
performance.

Filling the buffer cache with one large file does not give degraded
performance. (tested with iozone)


Again, any hints on how to proceed is greatly appreciated.


Best regards,
Roy.



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