Dear Stuart, I've used various parchments in the past (not what passes for 'parchment' in craft shops! which, as you've found, is only paper) and find the essential characteristic is the fibrous nature of proper vellum - it greatly adds to the strength and avoids splits etc. If you can't get any locally try banjo vellum (NOT the moderrn artificial type tho - it's plastic!). Cut the vellum with a sharp knife. Many people use disposable scalpels eg Swann Morton which avoids sharpening but be careful because they are thin and can snap if too much sideways force is used. Use punches (make your own from filed sections and.or go to craft shop for fine tubes and the like. Old FoMRHI Quarterlies have a few items about these roses - have a look at C 167, C 234, C 235, C1515 and C 1524 - all available online in facsimile - and others I think .... Many early roses seem to have been made up of a double thickness (the upper even of a thin veneer of wood glued). The Musee Jacquemart Andree vihuela design is simple and easily scalable with a compass - being mostly overlapping arcs. Also look at cittern roses. Martyn. __________________________________________________________________
From: WALSH STUART <s.wa...@ntlworld.com> To: "lute-builder@cs.dartmouth.edu" <lute-builder@cs.dartmouth.edu> Sent: Thursday, 16 October 2014, 11:35 Subject: [LUTE-BUILDER] beginner's question - simple rose for four-course guitar? I'm having a go at making a simple, basic four-course guitar. I'm not having any success at all in making a simple inset rose but I'd rather not leave the sound hole empty. As well as wood, I tried something that a local art shop sells as' parchment' but it's very difficult to use and impossible to clean up. So far, the roses I've tried to make have either broken or split or look so clumsy that it would be far better to simply have have an empty sound hole. I have David Van Edward's lute-making CD rom... but that explains how to cut a rose directly into the soundboard itself and anyway, is far too difficult for me at this stage. I wouldn't know how to re-grind chisels or any kind of metal. Stuart --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. [1]http://www.avast.com To get on or off this list see list information at [2]http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html -- References 1. http://www.avast.com/ 2. http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html