This was posted to the musicology list, and may be of interest in light of
our recent discussions.  I forgot to mention that there was a cponference
at NYU a few years back titled "Thr Mu$ic Bu$ine$$ in the 18th Century."
John Kmetz organized it, but I had to leave before the interting paper on
the value of money was read.  

Bill Meredith heads the Beetoven Center of the U of Califonia, San Jose.
He's mentioned prominently in that true detective story about Beethoven's
hair.  (Nice summertime read.)

AJN
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RE:     Beethoven currency query
From: Bill Meredith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Beethoven currency query

Dear Gail (and those interested):

The question of currencies and today's money often comes up at the 
Beethoven Center. Unfortunately, there is no satisfactory way to say that 
one florin would equal so much in dollars today.

What we have found works very well instead is to explain to elementary 
school teachers and adults and everybody that from the amount of money 
Beethoven received for a work, he could have paid for half a year's worth 
of rent on his apartment in Vienna, for example, or he could have bought so

many chickens for his table. The ratonale behind this is that some things 
were very expensive in Vienna because they were in severely limited supply 
(rent), others reasonable (some foods, but not all). Julie Moore, in her 
wonderful dissertation that should have been published as a monograph long 
ago ("Beethoven and Musical Economics") discusses all of this -- and much 
more -- in wonderful detail.

For example, Beethoven received 100 gold ducats for the Fifth and Sixth 
Symphonies (Opuses 67 and 68); the Cello Sonata, Opus 69; and the two 
Pianoforte Trios, Opus 70, from Breitkopf & Haertel around September 14, 
1808. Thus, if you divide the sum earned by the four opus numbers evenly 
(questionable but workable enough for our purposes, and publishers probably

made more on chamber music than symphonies), each opus number was worth 25 
gold ducats. Beethoven's rent for his apartment in the Pasqualati House 
that year was 500 Florins Bankozettel (Moore, p. 194). If I did the math 
right (using the exhange rate of 1 gold ducat = 4.5 florins 
Conventionsmuenze and using the inflation rate for 1808 that 100 CM florins

- 228.15 BZ florins), 25 gold ducats was worth 256 Florins BZ, which means 
that he earned half a year's rent for each opus number, or two years of 
rent for the five works. A chicken cost between 72-120 Kreuzer BZ in Vienna

in 1808 (Moore, p. 549), so Beethoven could have bought a chicken for 
Sunday dinner every week for a little more than year (using the upper cost 
of a chicken) from what he made from one of the opus numbers. (Or 85 
chickens at the cheaper price.)

I have to confess that I am not an expert in these Viennese currencies, 
(especially with the complication of the inflation rates), so if anyone 
needs to correct my math, please let us all know (I'm serious about this). 
(Dr. Moore should really be the one doing this math, but I don't think she 
is on the list.)

A one bedroom spacious apartment in San Francisco similar to Beethoven's 
expensive Vienna apartment in 1808 rents for about $1,800 today, so you 
could say that he earned about $10,800 in rent money for contemporary US 
dollars for the Fifth Symphony. (As is still true, apartments inside what 
became the ring in Vienna were much more expensive that ones outside the 
wall.) A chicken in the Bay area costs about $4-6, which means that he 
earned $284 in food money. This gap shows the problem with trying to say 
what 25 gold ducats would be today, since what money is worth is of course 
related to what things cost.

Bill Meredith


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William Rhea Meredith, PhD
Director, The Ira F. Brilliant Center for Beethoven Studies
Professor, School of Music and Dance

Mailing address: Beethoven Center, San Jose State University
One Washington Square
SJ CA 95192-0171
Phone: 408-808-2056
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