This topic has been covered previously on the list (exhaustively!!). I
would suggest Jon look up the archives. Before this starts another mamoth
thread (We know what happened last time!)

with best intentions

Anthony


> Eugene,
>
> I think we actually agree, I may have mis-stated my comment. In this case
> the oringinal publisher (1901) is long out of business, the publisher of
> the
> reprint (1971) has been bought out - and the new owner of the copyright
> has
> no interest in reprinting (I contacted them). The publisher of the
> facsimile
> (Lyon & Healy Harps) seems to have done the same thing I did - that is to
> copy an existing book (although they didn't respond when I emailed them
> for
> info). This is not a "rare and ancient" book, the 1971 reprint is
> available
> in many libraries (my Monmouth County Library was able to get it from one
> two counties away).
>
> The question of public domain, in this case, I think is moot. I'm sure the
> original copyright still stands, and is in the hands of the publisher of
> the
> reprint. The Lyon & Healy facsimiles may be illegal, for all I know - or
> they may be a direct agreement to not seek redress. The publisher of the
> reprint had no direct knowledge of them, as they didn't suggest them as a
> source - they only suggested the used book market.
>
> I believe that there is a difference under US law between a facsimile of
> an
> original (even if in public domain) and a copying of the "text". The first
> would purport to be "original", and the second merely a new version. But
> that is up to the legal scholars.
>
> In my case there was no source to gain the text, other than repeatedly
> renewing it from the library, except by paying for similar copies made by
> Lyon & Healy (who don't run a publishing business, they make harps). And
> to
> the best of my knowledge they do the music book publishing on the side as
> a
> service to their main business. At least I think so, and I did write them.
>
> So I was speaking of a very specific circumstance, and agree with you as
> to
> the small publisher with "copyrightable material. I would have been quite
> happy to pay a reasonable price for someone else's work in copying that
> book, or even an exhorbitant price if the book were available only by
> going
> to Ulan Bator to copy the original. But in this case the alternate vendor
> didn't have the copyright either.
>
> Best, Jon
>
>> I don't entirely agree with this last statement.  What happens if you
>> are
> a
>> small publisher of copyrightable material and have no intent to
>> "monopolize," but just want to make a living while providing something
>> interesting to as wide an audience as possible?  If your copyrighted
>> material is wantonly, widely copied and your investment in production
> fails
>> miserably, will you undertake such a venture again?  I wouldn't.  One to
>> a
>> few of the selfish win in such a case while many lose.  In any event,
>> this
>> isn't entirely relevant, because as I understand things, facsimiles of
>> public domain material are not protected by copyright in the US.
>> Copying
>> new introductory text, new cover art, lists for interpretation of
>> errata,
>> etc. (which would be protected) would constitute theft and be
>> understandably illegal.
>>
>> Best,
>> Eugene
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>



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